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The most competative niches online - Let's track and analyse them - agentblackhat.com

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  1. gorang

    gorang Elite Member

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    In years gone by we've seen "Acai Berry", "real estate", "insurance", "weight loss" and more. But what are the most recent competitive niches online?

    As Blackhat SEOs we concentrate purely on rankings, this is what matters to us. But with the way Google has been fluctuating and punishing webmasters it seems we have been paying more attention to what Google says than we should. What we should be doing is looking directly at the current state of Google's SERPs as they often contradict what Matt Cutts says.

    By paying attention to what the real smart Blackhatters are doing and the sites ranking very highly for seemingly impossible keywords we are getting a front row seat to the truth of Google's broken algorithm.

    With the recent launch of agentblackhat.com i've acquired a $199 per month scalable rank tracking package from RankRanger which gives me space to track 50 websites and 1,000 keywords as well as the backlink data from majestic and more. Im going to use this package to track several highly competitive niches online and analyze what the big blackhat players are doing. This data will be freely available and give all of us an insight into what is really happening at the top of Google.

    I'll be analysing this data on my blog and making regular "State of the SERPs" updates detailing what i've found. You will also be able to freely login and see the data for yourself.

    So what i'd like to do is ask you guys what you think is the most competitive niche listings in Google.

    I have some ideas already but I want to know what is important to you.

    Some ideas:
    E-cigs
    Payday loans(Google is looking at cleaning this listing up)

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    I've spent some time researching several niches. Once you begin to dig you find all sorts of enigmas and interesting SERP results. There is literally too much to write about and track out there. I missed out many Niches such as Debt Management and classics like Acne, Viagra and Gambling.

    For the moment atleast, there are plenty of sites within the keywords below which can provide a factual outlook on Google's algorithm once analysed properly.

    Below is the list I have come up with. I will be tracking the rankings, backlinks and more for these websites and you will will have access to the data in order to see for yourself. Then I will analyze and write blog posts breaking down reasons why these sites are ranking and how they likely contradict what Matt Cuts and Google say.

    E-Cig Niche
    electronic cigarettes, e cigarettes, electronic cigs, ecig, e-cig, e cig

    Life Insurance Niche
    life insurance, cheap life insurance, cheap term life insurance, cheap life insurance quotes

    Payday Loans Niche
    payday loans online, instant payday loans, payday loans no credit check, online payday loan, bad credit payday loans, 12 month payday loans, 3 month payday loans

    Pills Niche
    weightloss pills, diet pills, slimming pills, hoodia weight loss pills, hoodia diet pills, breast enlargement pills,prosolution pills,natural diet pills,safe diet pills

    Stop Smoking Niche
    quit smoking, stop smoking, how to quit smoking, how to stop smoking

    Make Money Online Niche
    make money online, how to make money online, ways to make money online, make money online free, make money online fast
     
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  2. Beven

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    A lot of HUGE niches have been born out of developments in technology. You only to look at searches like iPhone, Kindle etc etc. Even E-cigs as you've mentioned is an example of this.
     
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    I think E-cigs i a great Niche to track. I can track the top 10 sites from this niche and a range of keywords.
     
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    word, just take a look at the top10 sites for "seo services"
     
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    I've spent some time thinking and researching some of the toponline industries. I will track the top sites which are focussed on converting customers into sales. This means affiliate sites and not sites like wikipedia. I'll also track any enigmas i find in the search results. All together I think there will be 20-30 sites to track and a few hundreds keywords. I'll gather a list of common keywords among what I believe are high converting sites in the niche.

    Niche

    make money online
    payday loans
    ecig
    cheap life insurance

    Others
    Free iphone
    free ipad
    dog training

    Please let me know of any other ideas you may have. Remember, all this information will be available to everyone for free and you will be able to examine the SERPs for yourself.
     
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    What about weight loss?
     
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    The problem with the weight loss niche right now is that the rankings for the main keyword are solid. The sites at the top look like they've been manually picked and placed, I can't find any great sites which are able to take advantage of that niche and funnel sales. If you take a look at the top it is mayoclinic, webmd, menshealth. There sites do not necessarily focus on sales and generating money which is what we are interested in. We want to know what the smart blackhatters are doing to rank sites and make sales.

    If we go down the weightloss route i'll need to dig into the keywords and find a more sales focussed sets of phrases/SERPs which are more interesting to follow and can tell us more about the current SEO techniques which are working.

    Now if we take "weightloss pills" we strt to see some interesting sites already. The site residing at #3 is topweightlosspills.com.au however upon clicking the link it immediately redirects to phenobestin.com/#oid=1025_1_topweightlosspills

    This is already quite interesting behaviour and would make a good writeup. It even uses a stock image of a doctor i've got on several of my own sites which i find amusing.
     
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    Gaming
    Gambling (Free betting)
    Sex
    Viagra
    Apple products
    Discounts/coupons
     
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    I've spent some time researching several niches. Once you begin to dig you find all sorts of enigmas and interesting SERP results. There is literally too much to write about and track out there. I missed out many Niches such as Debt Management and classics like Acne, Viagra and Gambling.

    For the moment atleast, there are plenty of sites within the keywords below which can provide a factual outloonk on Google algorithm once analysed properly.

    Below is the list i've come up with. I will be tracking the rankings, backlinks and more for these websites and you will will have access to the data in order to see for yourself. Then I will analyze and write blog posts breaking down reasons why these sites are ranking and how they likely contradict what Matt Cuts and Google say.

    E-Cig Niche
    electronic cigarettes, e cigarettes, electronic cigs, ecig, e-cig, e cig

    Life Insurance Niche
    life insurance, cheap life insurance, cheap term life insurance, cheap life insurance quotes

    Payday Loans Niche
    payday loans online, instant payday loans, payday loans no credit check, online payday loan, bad credit payday loans, 12 month payday loans, 3 month payday loans


    Pills Niche
    weightloss pills, diet pills, slimming pills, hoodia weight loss pills, hoodia diet pills, breast enlargement pills,prosolution pills,natural diet pills,safe diet pills

    Stop Smoking Niche
    quit smoking, stop smoking, how to quit smoking, how to stop smoking

    Make Money Online Niche
    make money online, how to make money online, ways to make money online, make money online free, make money online fast
     
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    Setting up the sites in RankRanger now. I have 23 sites so far. I'm seeing some common themes among the sites ranking for big keywords. I've also just spotted and extreme example of blackhat tactics. A site ranking for "payday loans" at position one which is ranking through two 301 redirects. I'll publish the data and track its rankings for us to analyse.

    It has never been easier to rank with blackhat as far as i'm concerned. Nothing Matt Cutts says hold any weigh anymore
     
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    I'm very eager to see what you find out. I've been watching this thread for the past couple days and would like to have an insight as to how the big boys in black hat are playing with. Thanks for this
     
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    I couldn't agree with you more on this!

    Veyron
     
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    Thanks i'm going to get a blog post out today and give you guys access to RankRanger to look at rankings yourselves. Obviously there is minimal data in there at the moment but these sites are all post-penguin 2.0 and they are ranking well.

    In total I tracked 35 websites which rank for big keywords but are obviously blackhat or affiliate marketers.
     
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    Great idea.
     
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    WOW, very informative. I faced only Payday loans, Weight loss and e-cigs. E-cigs are pretty lower then others.

    Thanks
     
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    Interesting, i think i can learn a lot from this thread.
     
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    I'm not sure you can.

    I think earn money online will always be a competive and interessting niche, no doubt. About e cigs, thats still evolving big time.
     
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    'Find a niche' is a niche.
     
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    So the whole point of this is to do two things.

    1) Show real examples of Backhat sites and online marketers raking in the cash post Google updates and to analyze exactly how they are making money in the current state of Google.

    2) Show just how ineffective Google's updates actually are and the disparity between what Google says and what their algorithm actually does.

    You will now be able to access the Rank Ranger account, just follow the simple instructions on the linked page. I've written a blog post giving you an overview of what the "SERP Watch" section of the site is about and what i'm trying to achieve.

    Access is free, however the only thing I ask is that you come back and read a blog post once in a while. I'll change the password every time I make a new blog post and the new password will be on the "SERP Watch" page.

    As always if you have any suggestions for interesting sites for us to track let me know.

    Find it here http://agentblackhat.com/i-track-rankings-for-top-blackhat-sites-and-give-the-data-to-you-for-free/

    There are 35 sites being tracked, Rank Ranger shows several metrics including majestic and hrefs, domain visibility, domain impact and rank graphs. Use this data how you wish on your own blogs but please link back to me if you do.
     
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    Good luck Gorang.
    This is the sort of study that could really add value when the data comes in.

    Scritty