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The more quality links I build the worse rankings I get

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by morisato, Dec 18, 2012.

  1. morisato

    morisato Registered Member

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    Anyone had such experience ?
     
  2. bitencrypt

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    what are the details?
     
  3. tejsin

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    well, try to avoid wide site links :)
     
  4. Glenn BH

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    Would be great if you could define "quality links" and "more" :)
     
  5. morisato

    morisato Registered Member

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    I had rankings mostly on page 2. After I made non spam forum links and few web2.0s I totally disappeared from rankings. I know it could be dance...
     
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    seem strange, is it a new website ?
     
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    First of all, define quality link?
     
  8. berap

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    maybe your competitor rankings goes up
     
  9. morisato

    morisato Registered Member

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    By quality links I mean Forum links tightly connected to the topic of my site and of course thread I'm posting in.
     
  10. morisato

    morisato Registered Member

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    It's 3 years old site PR4 - about 50 indexed pages

    I had #1-3 rankings and then penguin came...

    Still trying to recover but the more I try the more garbage I see in the SERPs
     
  11. proweb

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    While forums and web 2.0's are usually relevant links, I don't consider them quality links.

    This is just my opinion, but I consider a quality link as a link on a major page of a domain which is relevant to my niche, is 1+ years old, has low OBL, has a PR of at least 1, and the link will stay their indefinitely without being deleted.

    While I don't personally rely on web 2.0's and forum posts to rank my sites, I've seen many people rank with those methods. Maybe your site is dancing or perhaps you triggered a minor penalty by having an unusual link velocity and/or your anchor texts aren't diversified enough.
     
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  12. morisato

    morisato Registered Member

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    In the recent link building I've totally diversified anchor text from CLICK HERE(and similar) to brand name and low traffic search keywords
     
  13. arnx

    arnx Newbie

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    Old types of links and linking no longer works, I guess. For a new content, it seems important and deserves ranking if, for example, its photo has a pin, that pin has been repinned a few times, and those repins have been repinned many more times - that photo must be good, eh? Same with a content link, that site must have pr and visitors, if the content where your links is, have been rebloged a few times, and have been link to a few times, then ..you will rank. ...try natural link velocity, imo, the viral link approach has to keep on going if you hope to keep your rank for a long period or until the next update...I have stopped the traditional linking methods of shotgun approach as it sinks posts and sites...this method has a clear spamming prints on it as big G is now more discerning than before.
     
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    Try changing the complete content of the site with a fresh one and completely unique and then start from scratch this will really help you as it also helped me to recover my site
    It was on the top but after the update i was not able to see the site anywhere but now its on page 2 back again
     
  15. morisato

    morisato Registered Member

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    I already made completely new site in wordpress but I don't want to change to a new domain or something similar cause I constantly try to make something that "google considers most valuable" - the brand (that's what they are blabbing about all the time isn't it?)

    I have about 2k real FB fans , 500 Twitter followers, Company LinkedIn, Google places with fantastic reviews, original YT videos, G+ with constant updates, confirmed Google Authorship (got the mail from Google recently)

    In fact my industry is quite boring but I try to make it funny and interesting...
     
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    That actually depends on your definition of quality backlink. Did you meant a quality comment from a spammed blog?Or all anchor text backlinks from blog comments? If you believe these are quality links then you are mistaken..But if you mean backlinks authority domains like wikipedia and other sites then that might be some other case...
     
  17. morisato

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    I don't mean on blog comments as quality link of course but you reminded me I also got a link on Wikipedia and Wiki travel and it's sticking cause it's relevant.
    By quality links I mean the links from the forum discussions closely related to the topic of my site and thread. Of course, I get the traffic from this forums as a referrals.

    Of course I have many links on index pages of Authority service providers from other countries I'm not competing with.
     
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    As everyone mentioned above, there's a lot of definitions of an actual "quality" link.

    Forum links are good to mix in, but I feel like they hold much more traffic value than actual SEO boost. Is it in a signature, or in individual posts? This could be diluting your anchor text variety.

    What you should do is break down what's coming in to your site. I mostly use Ahrefs, but I know there's a lot of other tools that can break the incoming links down even more.

    Look at what types of sites are linking in. The anchor texts and percentages. What TLD's are coming in, and from what countries. How many links from each site. And see if anything else catches your eye.

    You want to have a variety of links coming in. Mix in some blogs, web 2.0's, social media, light social bookmarks, and whatever else you can get a link on. The goal of SEO is to look natural, and by giving a more "normal" footprint around your site; you should see some decent results.

    Thanks. ~englandrm