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The Metamorphosis of Prime Intellect

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by dichotom, Apr 6, 2012.

  1. dichotom

    dichotom Elite Member

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    This is an online book I ran across a few years back. I have read it twice to date. It's short enough to finish in a long afternoon if you get "sucked in" to it.

    If you are a sci-fi fan you will probably love it like I did. It is basically about the scenario of "the singularity" and the ramifications that would follow.

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    http://localroger.com/prime-intellect/mopiidx.html
    
     
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  2. nickt

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    This looks interesting. Thanks OP. Instead of just sharing, why not share with us on what you think of the book? Would be nice to have an intriguing discussion about the 'singularity'.
     
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  3. dichotom

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    I guess I didn't really think about doing a review, more like just an endorsement (I read it two times, it kept me up all night when I stumbled onto it the first time and I was dead tired lol).

    The story itself seems about as much of a likely scenario as any other for the advent of the technological singularity. Basically it all just hinges on a moment and bam, it's done. Technology becomes god with no way to turn back. I suppose the how of it doesn't really matter in the end, this book is mainly about exploring the consequences of nearly instantaneous acceleration to the end of technological advancement.

    The AI in the book finds the "key" to how reality functions at it's most basic level, and being a computer it sees the universe as one large data storage device. Following the three laws (borrowed from asimov) it then re-formats the universe like a hard drive and re-saves everything in a more manageable format so it can better serve and safeguard humankind. I don't want to go too far into it and give away too much of the story.

    I do like the fact that it is bound around one piece of technology, the fictional "correlation effect" (which is similar in ways to quantum communication). I hate stories that ask you to suspend your disbelief for more than one thing at a time. Within the book is the perfect world everyone seemingly wants. No hunger, no mortality, no limits etc. and the ramifications of not having those adversities anymore. Anyone can literally be or do anything at any time without limit... except they can't end it and die.
     
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  4. John1141

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    Seems interesting. I will give it a read and hopefully try to join the discussion too.
     
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    Yeah, let me know what you think, I don't know anyone else who has read it so it would be interesting to see what others think of it.
     
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    I used to be a hard-core sci-fi fan, but now I work and have no time. This is the first new literary work I've read in probably 5 years or more. And the theme is intersting, however I've never been a big horror fan, and have always felt the "Goth people" were human mildew. And I couldn't get past the 1st chapter. Metaphorically, it's like waking up to discover the cat has pissed on your pillow in the middle of the night, and you've slept with your face buried in it all night. Yeah it's unique, and for cat-piss it might be the best smelling cat piss in the universe, but it's still cat piss and you don't choose to spend the night sleeping with your face buried in a puddle of it.

    And that's what I think of your novel/e-book. I choose not stick my face in cat piss, and I choose not to continue reading this book, no matter how well-written it may be, and the concepts may be interesting, it's still cat piss.
     
  7. nickt

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    I'm only on the 2nd part right now and I know it may seem so gory in the 1st chapter. There is actually a reason for this because it is human nature. Human nature with god-like powers and the ability to fulfill every sick fantasy. Undeniably, this is what will happen when we become masters of every domain.

    Then came part 2, which is actually about the creation of Prime Intellect, I think you will love it. No gore there. It shouldn't even matter much even if you skip part 1.

    All I can say is I've been reading this in-between whatever tasks I'm undertaking and I'm pretty much hooked right now.
     
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    LOL, you may have missed your calling with the cat pee niche. Sounds like you got the general feel of the extent of human depravity in the first chapter though I don't have any cats myself so I can't really relate.

    Nail on head ;)
     
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    I'm left with half of the last chapter and I've got to say that this has been one of the most invigorating reads in the past few years! It's so amusing that even with an almost perfect utopia, people still have the time to worry about things going all awry. If I were to be in such a situation I would appreciate it immensely. I am sure that with a lot of freedom, you could do a lot more than indulge in (sick) pleasures. In a sense, it is almost like playing an MMORPG. If people thought 600 years was long, I am sure that they can manipulate time in their space and dilate to make it seem faster and adjust perceptions. I am not going into detail about the possible failure of P.I because in the end, the humans are just dicking out (the nature of entropy) which will also lead to the inevitable failure of P.I.

    What do you think OP?
     
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    I broke down and went back to the (I guess it would be a) "novella" (maybe a short-story?) and read the whole thing. I can see why it was as short as it was. There is a very limited number of things one can write about with regard to the relationship between an all-powerful computer-god and those that are "served" by it.

    As to the basic storyline, the whole thing ignores the idea that one can choose to deliberately not-know something, such as the torture anne-marie went through while under caroline's control. If Prime what's-his-name can be used to purge memories, it can also be used to manipulate awareness in other areas, i.e. humans would then have the ability to selectively edit from their awareness anything they do not like, as well as include anything they do like. I imagine a story that describes the characters and what they know and do not know about this and that, and how all of that inter-relates with other humans that have the same ability would be extremely difficult to write, and impossible to read as it would resemble the state of reality to the extent that we have it right now that it would be easier just to go about living as a more satisfying and more efficient alternative than to spend one's timing tediously reading about a pale imitation.

    Wasn't there a book or series by James Blish that had a similar universe? "Infinite Worlds", or similar?