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The LAZY LOOP!

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by secretbonus, Apr 25, 2009.

  1. secretbonus

    secretbonus Registered Member

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    Okay, so there's this trick that some "mind master" guy does on youtube, basically he takes 9 chess players most of them very good, only really 1 real weak point. And he bets that he can take on the best chess players in he world and win more than he loses.
    He sets the boards up so he's black on one game, white on the next, black on the next and so on...
    Basically he mirrors the moves on one game and uses them against the next, then determines the counter move, and uses that for the next game...
    Essentially he put grandmaster 1 vs grandmaster 2 and grandmaster 3 against grandmaster 4 and so on... He really just beat 1 single player (the weak point) and let the other 8 players win, lose, or draw.


    SO lets use this "trick".

    So you find a niche that has arguments over what is better?
    we'll say "oranges and apples" is the argument
    You create 2 review blogs reviewing both...
    You generate the content..
    But rather than waste time responding to people on your own, which actually requires thought, you do the following trick.

    You find however many forums you want, 2 is all that is really needed...
    First you find a question "which is better, orange or apples" You then use CTRL+C to copy the question in another forum, then you wait for a response and "answer" it by CTL+V. It needs to be a common question, otherwize you'll have to find a question, copy it, then

    This works with anything, say you see a article saying "why X is better than Y", you then find someone that says "why Y is better than X" and you spin both articles on seperate blogs/sites, and you find people and you get trackbacks, or make comments and tell them why they're wrong and to visit your site to respond... Then you get the response and can mirror each other's arguments in the same way...
    This is especially easy for something like politics during election time as there are TONS of comments going everywhere that you can copy and paste.

    Essentially, forum 1 is arguing with forum 2, but they probably won't realize that, because they're so focused on their own forum.
    You can do this on yahoo answers as well.
    If you want more control, you can have 2 accounts, and pose both the questions and the answers
    Q1 "why are oranges better than apples?"
    response to Q1 oranages are better because they are tangy
    Your response: not true, apples are better because they're sweet
    Q2 "why are apples better than oranges?"
    Someone's response:because they're sweet
    Your response not true, oranages are better because they're tangy

    The purpose is not to win an argument, but to keep a bnch of content going, without actually doing much work... meanwhile, your signature gets out there everywhere, and someone might actually think you have a point, or they just visit your webpage.
    Then they start reading, and get bored and click off to adsense, or they agree with your counter point and decide to give it a try...
    This works with yahoo answers, or combining a forum with yahoo answers as well.
    Just find the right niche.
    It doesn't even need to be Product A vs product B, it could be internet marketing niche, and you just find common question and get a lot of posts out there.

    Of course, if you register to all of the forums in you niche, it's easy to do a google search for a question and find all of the responses...
    Example: WHat's a good hosting provider...
    You might even leach off of other good clever marketers, and join the affiliate programs that they join, and respond to everywhere you see that question with your signature file.
     
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  2. secretbonus

    secretbonus Registered Member

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    The other good thing is you become a good authority in the niche by doing this because you can generate a lot of posts fast

    just thought of this idea, haven't tried it yet, but I think I'm going to yahoo answers it up for a couple of my niches
     
  3. secretbonus

    secretbonus Registered Member

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    An easier way might be to join every forum first TWICE...
    Use firefox and "open in all tabs"
    Login
    Then post the question everywhere first...
    1 through 9
    By the time you login and post the 9th, the 1st will have responses, and you can just use those responses for 2-8. The 9th, you can either make up your own, "double dip" and use the best answer you got from 2-8or
    So you post questions to 9 forums... Then you look back and you ahve tons of responses and you simply copy the best answer...
    It doesn't even need to be a "which is better" question, in fact, it could just be something like this "lazy loop"
    The reason you might actually want a "which is better' question is because then you can actually have a "debate" and have answer, response, answer response, over and over again, and you can get a lot of posts to your accounts.

    I wonder if there's some sort of software that could use this trick...
    Maybe it could find a niche, spin content, then post it, and then automatically use the comments feed, and use it to display comments in the other blog this way you will have the apperance of argumenets back and forth, when really it's just one page reading the others comments? Somehow you'd have to prevent it from duplicating the comments over and over again though.
     
  4. mollah

    mollah Power Member

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    a lot of people are on multiple forums under the same topic, tho. Someone would probably notice this.

    Weightlifters are usually on the top 4 or 5 weightlifting boards, car people are on a bunch of forums for their car model/manufacturer, etc.
     
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    theprofitpro Junior Member

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    Daren Brown is great!

    I feel like I read something like this a few weeks ago. Dejavu :twitch:
     
  6. dschill

    dschill Newbie

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    Looks like quite an interesting strategy. Im soon going to have a website i need to have a good Search engine rank on and ill probably be trying this method out along with a couple others.
     
  7. domainplayer

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    this is a great idea!

    White Hat vs Black Hat?
     
  8. secretbonus

    secretbonus Registered Member

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    I guess this is true, people mih notice especially in a small niche and nmajor forums... M sugestion is to trto find different demographics...
    People who hang out i n Yahooanswers, aren't the same rtype of people who hang out in forums usually...

    But even if the notice, will the report you? especially if yuo take more time and actually change the question slightly... then even if they rport you, will the forum owner do anything... and even if he does, can't ou register new account... and if he blocks IP, you can just use proxy.

    I don't know, I have used it in two niches only but had no problems.
     
  9. secretbonus

    secretbonus Registered Member

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    Thanks
    I consider it black hat, borrowed content withou permission or a link...
    Asking the same question isn't uncommon, the same answer isn't either.

    might be the "lighter side" of blackhat, but I would say blckhat
    Also If you are concerned that they will get suspicious use a link to a blogger blog with a redirect to affiliate page in affiliate account you can afford to lose, first, then you can consider posting in forums for link building. to your site you want to seo
     
  10. shm03

    shm03 Regular Member

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    Its a bit long winded tbh, if you could automate it then you are in the money.