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the Generation without a purpose..

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by hootnholla, Apr 19, 2009.

  1. hootnholla

    hootnholla Junior Member

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    Are we? Really? Be honest....

    I remember watching a stompernet video a while back, and Andy mentioned that we are a "IM" generation no different than the "IM" generation from 1998.

    Meaning, the amount of opportunities that existed back in '98 exist now in '09.

    I disagree with this statement. Why? Well, the "get rich quick" programs have flooded the internet. Instead of people attempting the traditional offline methods to start a business, they have moved to "IM" or Amazon or eBay.

    BUT,

    WE have twitter, Myspace(a few years old now), Facebook(" "), and a half a dozen other social web 2.0 sites....

    I guess what I getting to is, is it likely that anyone thats apart of OUR "IM" generation to become the next Mark Zuckerberg, or Chad Hurley? Or do we have to mirror or mimic others? I know of virtually every method of making money on BHW and they are all trivial when compared to REAL "IM" businesses....or any business for that matter. I'm talking Frank Kern style. Not 10 to 20k a month, Im talking "a milli, a milli, a million there"..Lil Wayne style ya know lol

    Its like the quote from the movie "Fight Club" :

    "I see all this potential, and I see squandering. God damn it, an entire generation pumping gas, waiting tables; slaves with white collars. Advertising has us chasing cars and clothes, working jobs we hate so we can buy shit we don't need. We're the middle children of history, man. No purpose or place. We have no Great War. No Great Depression. Our Great War's a spiritual war... our Great Depression is our lives. We've all been raised on television to believe that one day we'd all be millionaires, and movie gods, and rock stars. But we won't. And we're slowly learning that fact. And we're very, very pissed off. "

    Would you disgree?

    God damn't lets create the "UBER" business. lol. Put the BHW minds together and lets create our own business, F* it, lets create our own damn country...lol

    Anyone want in??
     
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  2. tymillz

    tymillz Super Moderator Staff Member Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Just wanted to drop a line to let you know that "Fight Club" is my favorite movie next to "Usual Suspects".

    As far as the rest of your post, I will get back to you on that in a few.
     
  3. shylesson

    shylesson Power Member

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    gaaa.....checked out your sig links....stuffed......!!!!!

    This "IM" generation I think is totally different in terms of opportunities, but still have the same opportunities available....what I mean is, we have more opportunities in terms of what we can USE for the same opportunities as we had a decade ago. Opportunities lost with time have been replaced with other opportunities so that is why it seems we have the same opportunities. =D

    I think others will arise from our generation simply because they must. Perhaps the guru's now will just pass on their throwns. =P
     
  4. fletd09

    fletd09 Newbie

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    We should make a massive fight club fansite because that movie rocks....!

    On a more serious note what kind of "UBER" Business were you thinking of? I'd be interested :D
     
  5. platinvm

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    I'm not going to lie you probably lost most people by mentioning Fight club.

    "IM" is an arms race, opportunities don't last long in IM(well in life for that matter) so yes the opportunities today are completely differnt then the ones from the 1998.
     
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  6. hootnholla

    hootnholla Junior Member

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    Fack bro, I am genuinely sorry for the stuff, I used that site as a test for my iframe, I will remove it in the morning.

    As for the generation having the same opportunities available I disagree.

    A opportunity is a " a good chance for advancement or progress". But what if you have x,xxx,xxx competitors? Out goes opportunity. That's the problem I see here.

    Until there is a creation of new technology, we are paddling up shit creek. We are not re-inventing the wheel, just re-branding it. A generation of xxx,xxx,xxx with x,xxx succeeding.

    Although, succeeding is a personal opinion, none of us will go down in the history books. NONE.
     
  7. hootnholla

    hootnholla Junior Member

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    Not the "'80's".

    1998.

    And yes, so far, I do believe I lost almost everyone with Fight Club. lol.
     
  8. fletd09

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    Fight Club rules lol
     
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    hahaha..typo, just fixed it
     
  10. betster77

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    haha Fight club is a GREAT movie with a great message against consumerism. teaches (or more like reminds) you that you dont really need much to make a huge difference in the social order or to survive for that matter. to live life on your own terms and not on other's expectations, do not be a prisoner, make your own moves, it's about being a man. I love when he looks at the CK poster and says "look.. is that what a man is supposed to look like?" the ending is confusing to some, but the guy finally finds peace.. he's set people free.. at least before the credit companies rebuild. As far as opportunities, there are many great services being created, evolving and such. but every business plan needs good marketing. many here fill that coid and are glad with the freedom it provides. others are learning to promote their own ideas.. my 2 cents: create something of your own sometime in your life, hell at least you will already know how to promote it! don't do it cause you're expected to or because of the money, do it because you want to and you can.
     
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  11. dynander

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    I think you need to see the fight club message in a different way:

    There's a line between people that are "pumping gas, waiting tables; slaves with white collars (...) working jobs we hate so we can buy shit we don't need", and people successfully in blackhat (or in other business, actually).

    The ones that are successfully (not me at the moment) had crossed that line, they are not slaves any more. They had listen to the message, and acted.

    You can't create your country, you really need a country full of modern slaves. You need stupid people that buy anything they can buy and more

    In bottom line, I really like to think that every person here at bhw are inside that fight club sect, only we don't fight against the world, we just take advantage :)
     
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    But you said it yourself in the first post--more and more people are moving into the IM world, but how many are just plain moving online? More and more people are coming online period. Just look at the posts on this forum alone. People still posting that they are earning bank off methods others would say are dried up [ie ewhore].