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the "Famous Artist" method

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by eskimo, Feb 2, 2009.

  1. eskimo

    eskimo Regular Member

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    this is a pretty cool way to hopefully make some decent money
    its a pretty weird technique but should pay off in the end

    step1
    buy a large canvas and some oil paint and paint some sort of modern art monstrosity (yes, this sounds weird but carry on reading)

    step2
    invent an artist. pick a name for him, make it sound french, something like Jean Chapeau Noir

    step3
    make a few (i reckon at least 10) websites and blogs about how fantastic this artist is, including is official site. include details like previous sales (make them quite a lot). also make a facebook fan group, a facbook page, a myspace page , and even try a wiki page!

    step4
    now post an advert on ebay or something similar selling the painting you made (obviously you didnt make it, Jean Chapeau Noir did!). make it fairly pricey, but quite a lot less than the "previous sales" on the websites.

    hopefully some dude looking for a bargain piece of art will google who this Jean Chapeau Noir is, check out your sites and think that this is a fantastic deal and buy your piece of shit painting!

    this method does require quite a lot of work, but if you sell your painting for enough, its well worth it. also, you can put up a new painting for sale every few months and ho knows, maybe you will become a famous painter?

    :cat3:
     
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  2. bananahands

    bananahands Regular Member

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    lmao...I like it...very original. Jean Chapeau Noir...haha.

    Give it a try and report results here.
     
  3. del_boy

    del_boy Regular Member

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    similar to what I was going to do, except, do it via photoshop, and use printing canvas ;)
     
  4. lewi

    lewi Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Loving the name choice of 'John Black Hat'

    have you actually tried this or another speculation as i really doubt it will work all the time and is really basicly just scamming someone what could be big money.
     
  5. eskimo

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    you could adapt it to other things, not just painting. maybe write an ebook or something?
    im in the process of trying it!
     
  6. del_boy

    del_boy Regular Member

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    Lewi, how is it scamming ?
    You're basically creating and selling your own branded product.
     
  7. eskimo

    eskimo Regular Member

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    the "previous sales" are fraudulent, thats the only scam part really, but nobody could ever prove that. lots of artist use fake names, Jean Chapeau Noir could be yours.
     
  8. lewi

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    I dunno it seems completely wrong in my eyes.... it's one thing scamming the big companies but scamming an individual or lying/cheating them out of their hard earned cash is wrong.
     
  9. del_boy

    del_boy Regular Member

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    I totally agree, but it will be the rich greedy gits that will be buying methinks
     
  10. lewi

    lewi Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Good point actually.... :) doesn't seem so bad now plus my lack of sleep isn't helping matters.
     
  11. eskimo

    eskimo Regular Member

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    and whats the difference in buying a piece of shit art from someone else and me?
    the perceived value is the only difference, and the person who buys this will perceive it as being valuable so he'll be happy!
    if you want to waste money on stupid crap to make you feel like a winner instead of giving some of your extra cash to charity, you deserve to be ripped off
     
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  12. leonidt

    leonidt Regular Member

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    First, you're not ripping anyone off. You're selling a work of art. The fact that you fake previous sales and reviews is no different than having fake reviews for a work-at-home ebook and saying "down to $49.99 from a previous $199.99 for a limited time only!" Welcome to black hat. It would only be scamming if you said the work belonged to a real artist and it didn't. If you make up your own artist and tell everyone how great he is, that's not scamming. If I recall correctly, the official legal term for this is called "fluffing".

    Second, this works, I've done it to some extent, only a little different. I travel between Russia and US a lot, and when I do, I usually fly through Cuba. I buy around 20 paintings on a market in Havana for ~$50 each, then push them on Craigslist for ~$200-$300 each, saying it's an original painting by "such and such" Cuban artist. (Which is true)

    I like your spin on it. Way to think outside the box.
     
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  13. bl4ck1ce

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    I've seen many examples of modern art that have sold for ridiculous amounts of money; there was one rather famous painting sold when I was a kid that was basically a single red stripe down the middle of a canvas, and it sold for something like $10M.... I couldn't understand that when I was a kid, and I still don't.

    Anyways, for those who like this idea but are squeamish about outright fraud, yet are assuaged by technical truths... here are a couple of ideas.

    1. Get a color print of one of your paintings. Go to some famous art gallery (or even a fancy sounding but unknown gallery) and tape it up somewhere... it will be torn down of course, but at least you can truthfully say your art has been displayed in Le Gallery Famous, in Paris... (it could be Paris TX for all it matters, it still says Paris!)
    2. Sell a painting to a friend for an exorbitant sum... with no intention of ever cashing the check.. this is a schill of course, but if you don't want to tell an outright lie about previous sales then it may be a somewhat palatable workaround...

    I'm sure I could come up with more, but you get the idea.. My favorite movies & books are ones about clever schemes and heists, perhaps that's what draws me to blackhat marketing.. lol.
     
  14. leonidt

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    I dunno if you guys have ever heard of a guy called Norm Augustinus from Florida. He kind of a black-humor satirist. Anyways, what he did once (and probably still does) is go around to department store bathrooms, where they have art prints hung up, and replaces the print with a picture he made.
    http://video.yahoo.com/watch/56986/1258671
    (This is illegal, I'm not telling you to do this) Just thought it relates to the thread. :p


    In all seriousness, you're either alright with doing something like this method, or you're not. Why try to figure out ways to make yourself sleep better at night?
     
  15. omgitsmogo

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    haha this is hilarious. People who buy shitty "modern" art deserved to be ripped off anyways.
     
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    hahaha nice idea xD
     
  17. leonidt

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    Famous artists who create and sell "modern art" are the ultimate blackhatters. ;)
     
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    mearington Registered Member

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    You know, you don't even have to be shitty about it and make up a name. Just sell it as your own. It's amazing what people consider art. Put a high price tag on it and some people will think it's that good.
     
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    HAHAHAHA dude this is fucking hilarious. I'm going to build the biggest artist to hit the scene yet.
     
  20. Therookie

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    Ha ha you Lovejoy you.
    I read about someone faking art too selling on Ebay.