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The End of The Internet as we know it?

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by CEPI, Oct 28, 2011.

  1. CEPI

    CEPI Power Member

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    I would like to get the BHW opinions on this Bill being introduced, or also to let you guys/gals know that it IS going around out there if you have any fun ways to defend against it. Here is some of the text I found on this:

    REP. ZOE LOFGREN CALLS BILL "THE END OF THE INTERNET"

    Internet Blacklist Bill/PROTECT IP Act, which has been introduced by Reps Goodlatte, Smith, and others. It's HR 3261.

    It's alive! And it's a nightmare.


    The rumors were true: The new Blacklist Bill could effectively destroy YouTube, Twitter, and other sites that rely on user-generated content by making the sites' owners legally responsible for content their users post.


    It also includes provisions that would make it a felony to stream unlicensed content -- including cover band performances, karaoke videos, video game play-throughs, and more.


    It's a grab-bag of Halloween goodies for a handful of big corporations -- but for us it's Frankenstein's monster, cobbled together from half-born bills, set to suffocate free speech and innovation and terrorize consumers and Internet users.
     
  2. Roparadise

    Roparadise BANNED BANNED

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    I say if it passes we should all setup offshore llc's to cut off their tax revenue and get local businesses to do the same, By advertising how much they could save. Alot of people don't know about the double irish thing. If they want to mess with us, we should crush them by taking money out of the u.s.
     
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  3. CoyoteAssassin

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    Thanks for sharing this. As someone in the IM business, I do not like it but it's coming. Look at what they have done to email marketing.

    I can fill your postal mailbox full of garbage and deliver as many phonebooks as I want to your front door but when it comes to the email, it's like a protected wall.

    As I learned recently, always have a backup plan. I didn't and now I'm paying the price...
     
  4. Brainstorming

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    This will NEVER happen. Can you imagine how society would react if they couldn't view YouTube Videos, Check their MySpace or Facebook and read their favorite celebrities tweets? This would in-fact ruin the internet and much more. Look at shows like Tosh.0, Ridiculousness and Web Soup. They get all of their videos from websites like YouTube. This bill would results in tens of thousands of lost jobs, if not in the hundreds of thousands.

    No one in their right mind would allow this to pass. Whoever introduced this bill is obviously living in a log cabin. The internet and the websites that would be effected by this, are the future.
     
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  5. CoyoteAssassin

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    That sounds good and all of you shoudl already have an LLC and take advantage of loop-holes, but how do you plan on bringing the money back into the US?

    Before you do this, you will want to talk to a tax attorney, not an accountant or CPA as they tend to follow the common rules.
     
  6. Jonny Quick

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    How about instead we vote out every single incumbant, kick them in the ass so hard they land outside on the street.

    How about we reject all the "party vs. party" bullshit, and make a REAL statement, which is that every single one of these low-life motherfuckers are FIRED.

    How 'bout we take power away from THEM, even as they are attempting to take our freedom from US.

    How 'bout that, instead?
     
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    here's something we can do to fight it

    Urge Congress To Reject The PROTECT IP Act:
     
  8. adhept

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    It won't kill the internet, just starve the american economy of billions and billions of dollars.

    Remember, the USA accounts for less than 10% of the worlds population. These big companies will simply move to somewhere with more friendly laws. Even if USA users are cut off, there's enough other countries to make a decent profit from.

    I wouldn't be worried just yet, they'll soon realize how stupidly impractical it is. Even if they don't, lets all just think of the money we can all make selling simplified VPN services to USA web users to regain freedom of the internet!
     
  9. Brainstorming

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    You're right on. This would open up a hundred million dollar plus business for proxies and VPNs in the United States, given that the companies decided to move countries and continue business as usual. Regardless, I still don't want to see it happen and I'm 100% sure it won't. Too many jobs and too much tax money would be lost.
     
  10. Monrox

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    Actually, America is one of the few countries that do not yet hold the owners responsible for the actions of their users. It sucks but it is only a matter of time before that changes. Partly due to pressure from outside, and not just corporate greed.
     
  11. Jonny Quick

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    In a parallel universe:

    There was a recent story where a gang of bank robbers robbed a bank and a bank teller was killed. To coordinate the robbery, they used cell phones serviced by Verizon. Due to "outside pressure", prosecuters decided that since Verizon Corporation was a "person", and since Verizon was responsible for the criminal activities of it's customers, they would also charge Verizon Corporation's Board of Directors for being complicit in the crime.

    However, fortunately for the Executives, there was a major shift in the political power structure (a combination of Tea Party and "Occupiers"), and while the loss of life was largely symbolic, an entirely new political infrastructure was put into place, one that understood who was ultimately responsible for that crime: Verizon's shareholders.

    Anyone owning stock in Verizon has been sentenced to be imprisoned in a US Government Forced Labor Camp, and their labors are being used to construct a prison that will eventually house them. Also, due to their new legal status (as defined in the Second American Patriot Act), they are also being used to test the toxicity of the latest Bovine Growth Hormone in humans.
     
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  12. Expertpeon

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    I stopped counting at 115 countries that do not hold owners liable for actions of users.
    There's many more, just got bored.
     
  13. Monrox

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    I meant out of those that are trully developed / have an actual say on the planet; like Japan, France, Germany... of course the whole Africa won't hold anyone liable for anything. While China on the other hand...
     
  14. joaquin112

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    It wouldn't be that bad for us. It would take a lot of content off the web so that we can get better rankings for those keywords! Imagine how many sites would take their content offline.

    However, if you have a forum or something then it would suck. Overall I don't think it will happen but if it does it's good to be prepared ;)