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The end of keyword stuffed on-site SEO is near.

Discussion in 'AI - Artificial Intelligence in Digital Marketing' started by ThopHayt, Oct 26, 2015.

  1. clevelandslim

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    Nice to read. Useful information gained.
     
  2. lightningblitz

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    What am I reading?

    Micky made a point about the fact we should not worry about 'AI' or what ever Google calls this. It is another scary hat tactic to make people think Google is the 'god' of the internet. They now have AI deciphering SERPs, oh no!

    To think this is really AI and google is being honest with this doing all it can, means it is capable of thinking and deciding when I type into Google 'HHF porn' I mean 'Horse Horse Female porn' and when it finds no results it can think and direct me to 'Horse Female porn' and give me SERPs which are relevant to my searches. This being AI and personalizing my search results also means it can also filter out pages I already looked at by remembering my chrome browser history and showing me new web pages rather than the ones I looked at previously, because if I liked it I would have bookmarked it.

    I do not care what program or algo Google rolls out. To believe that this will be real AI and can do everything they claim is incredible.

    Calling the claims of google BS is a valid response from Micky because the article in the OP is a synopsis of another article which claims google is using this AI to better organize search results and that this is an AI at least a year in the making, designed to fully personalize search results.

    So when you type into google 'HHF porn' and it does not show you new videos you have never seen before which are up your alley, you can safely say this 'AI' does not work as well as Google claims.

    Time to take the tinfoil hats off and realize that although Google may hope this is revolutionary AI as they claim, experience should make you take anything Google claims with a grain of salt.
     
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  3. Bionaire

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    Just to elaborate, I'm talking about single keyword stuffing. Many of those ranking with big kws are placing it once in their content along with placing other targeted kws in their content once too. There's no need to stuff one kw in your content at all.

    With decent on-site SEO, backlinks are king and that's how it'll be for a long time to come.

    as for the update in specifics.. lightningblitz obviously outlines what it does.. so it has nothing to do with kw stuffing but rather detecting what abbreviations people use in search etcetera.
     
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    Look ate the source of the article... that alone for me sets major red flags, places like searchengineland, MOZ, SEO Roundtable are all on Googles dick, it is obviously blatant propaganda, what we will see that the only results matching the query is going to be Adwords, and i get it... Google is a business and they need to milk it ( i would have done the same and worse) what i can't stand is that they blatantly lie about it this article that Googles minions at searchengineland where just happy to post is a great example of the Goebbels ways....

    Ohw i am sorry i meant to say: Googles way.
     
  5. mickyfu

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    Maybe Google could use some of its "intelligence" to learn languages for use with its translator. Instead of spewing out the complete shit it does. Oh sorry, Google can't learn, because Google is a program.
     
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  6. ThopHayt

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    This may clear up peoples' questions: http://searchengineland.com/faq-all-about-the-new-google-rankbrain-algorithm-234440

    Google is claiming RankBrain is the "3rd most important" signal in ranking web pages. First obviously being links, I'd assume and second being... well I can't guess off the top of my head. But that is a HUGE claim by Google and should at the very least let us realize that Google is taking this new method very seriously. It would be beneficial to watch this carefully, as reacting fast against this will be key. Its only scaled out at 15% now, and may be the cause of these "zombie" visitors we've been seeing. I am advising you all take this seriously. I know I am. I'd prefer not to be on the bottom if Google is intent on shaking shit up again. Lest we forget that a Penguin update is going to ALSO be rolling out in coming months. If I were Google I'd roll both both these out together to make it harder to decipher which is causing what. So I FULLY expect a shit storm to hit SEO in early 2016.
     
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  7. PixelMathis

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    We won't be seeing anything like this soon. that's for sure. If this happens, it only means more and more traffic will be sent to the big authority sites.
     
  8. ThopHayt

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    Kissing the big authority sites ass is what Google is becoming all about anyway, isn't it though. I defy you to search any "buy item" type keyword that doesn't have Amazon all over the first page.
     
  9. jelly91

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    no it won't be as early as jan of 2016 i guess..
     
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    I think google is about to hit us with some heavy changes.

    I hope this site im working on ranks before the shit hits.

    Gonna sell this bitch on flippa before the update lol
     
  11. ThopHayt

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    Sometimes you need to think like Google to avoid getting hit. Ask yourself... knowing what you do about SEO what footprints, practices, and patterns would YOU look for in a site's link profile? When you analyze your competition's site what things do YOU look for to find clues to see HOW they rank. Figure this shit out as best you can and avoid doing it. Thats what I'm starting to do. I have a lot more research to do still, but I'm trying to figure out how I can white wash my projects before the updates come.

    I've been seeing a lot of strange behavior in Google over the past two weeks frankly. I've been doing SEO a while and never seen something as odd as whats starting to happen now.
     
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  12. crazy4cs

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    Why do they have to spoil every Christmas, meh.
     
  13. bestseoservice

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    This is called Search Box SEO and has been a trend at least from late 2014. It was mentioned last year at UNGGAGED VEGAS, and there is a group of SEO providers are into finding a way of conditioning the search suggest box. Its a New Trend, but there are ways to influence these results, that depend mainly on the user experience. There is even a software that has been in beta and now is released in use that has provided results,though is not massive, and yet kept to a smaller group. There is a huge potential in conditioning Search Box results.
     
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    Sorry Terminator kids, please enlighten me with your tinfoil hat degree on what happened to Google judgment day? You naive half wits. How's that college course coming on? You figured how to get a calculator to tell you what 1+1 is yet?
     
  15. donArmando

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    Well, it's just Semantic Web, it's not just Google, all of them are going into Semantic and AI.

    Semantic means that google can "understand" the meaning of the content without focusing to much on the keywords.

    But still, as long as Google will exist at least google that we know, the ranking factors will be as follow:

    Content
    Links
    Keyword Placement (On-Page Organization) - this will be affected by the algorithm updates.
    Links Organization (same, this will be affected by the algorithm updates).

    AI will become more and more active in future, so we will have to start and beat a higher intelligence in the future.
     
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    The Big G intent is to bring confusion and chaos and make people believe AdWords is the way to go. There program can not read the minds of all searchers with indifferences. Not in different societies where slangs are becoming more acceptable or words meaning different things to different people. Google will forever rely on keywords although they can track the behavior of searchers about delivered pages in terms of bounce rate, click etc. Relying solely on AI is just a joke. If I search >> "What is the meaning of Fuck", It will be biased if Google should instruct AI to give English meaning to it or SEX because it's interchangeable use in US. The same thing goes with the word "Bang".
    Conclusion: I smell shit here! it's either Google want to have more reasons to game the system to their advantage or just to throw SEOers off balance.
     
  17. ThopHayt

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    Well the news and OP here were a WHILE back, but from what I've seen happen with regards to poorly spun content in the last year or two tells me that Google is getting much better at contextual understanding of content. Also keep in mind it is a neural network AI, so as time goes on it trains itself and gets better.

    -ThopHayt
     
  18. Saluana

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    Yup, people will have to start righting high-quality articles to rank now. Oh, the humanity.
     
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  19. davids355

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    Haha, old thread but very relevant now!!
     
  20. jstover77

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    Keyword stuffing is still relevant, you just have to understand how to use it properly (see TF*IDF algorithm). I don't call it "keyword stuffing" anymore. I go with "term frequency". I like to sound more sophisticated with my SEO terminology...lol.