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The Earth bathed in radiation in 4 years?

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  1. Asgard

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    Sobering reading. Those cave petroglyphs are eerily accurate to the 'z-pinch artifacts'. Part1 of the article is good too. Those Mayans were pretty smart.

    http://www.viewzone.com/endtime2x.html

    (Word of warning: the 'Confidential Message' is about 53 pages and it's about HAARP in the main. You might wanna leave that one till later)

    some connecting stuff:

    http://www.nyu.edu/public.affairs/releases/detail/870
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/horizon/2000/massivebholes.shtml

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUtPRyXgO0A

    Discuss.
     
  2. coreygeer

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    *sigh*

    So many conspiracies.. why does everyone want to predict when the world's going to end?

    It's just like the Y2K scare.. When someone says "the world will end on this day" people panic.. start building bomb shelters.. and start buying everything they can get their filthy gullible hands on.

    It's so ridiculous how profitable stupid people are.
     
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  3. Asgard

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    You didn't actually read those articles did you? Where's the conspiracy? What you think the Sun is plotting with the gamma rays? Okaaaaay.

    No offence, but you're an idiot. It's nothing remotely like the "Y2K scare". For one, that was a computer problem - MANMADE - and the only reason it didn't actually become a problem was because for a good few years beforehand computer programmers were paid obscene amounts of money to go round and fix the software. They were fixing thousands and thousands of computers and made a bundle.

    On second thoughts, don't read the articles. Even though he's simplified the science as much as possible it'll go over your head. It wasn't until 2000 that they discovered there was a friggin great 'supermassive blackhole' at the centre of all galaxies FFS - including ours. Betcha didn't click the other links either.

    Whatever.

    Go back to sleep.
     
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    No offense, but there's no need to be rud and call him an idiot, we are all entitled to our personal opinion.

    I do believe something IS going to happen in 2012. No doubt. Yellostone, solar flares, radiation, etc.

    Will it end the world as we know it? Probably not.

    The most ridiculous one ive heard is Nibirus. A planet thats going to pass in between teh Sun and the earth and their people will come to rescue us... google it. Ridiculous.

    Anyways, live your life to the fullest. You can't do anything to prevent the end of the world, we are all insignificant.

    My 2 cents :)
     
  5. Asgard

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    Sure we are, but I'll point out the dismissive tone of his post and the statement about the profitability of stupid people. I might have been more polite if not for that.

    So what, you think our civilization is going to merrily carry on if those gamma rays get through? I'm assuming you did read the full article, and also the link for the recent discovery about the highest energy photons ever discovered in the galaxy? Coming from the centre of the galactic core and getting through the heliopause.

    Quote:

    "The gamma rays had a median energy of 3.5 trillion electron-volts, or 3500 times the mass-energy of a proton. Previous satellite experiments have seen gamma-ray emissions along the galactic equator reaching up to energies of only 30 billion electron-volts.

    Perhaps related to this is the puzzling fact that, even though we have witnessed no Galactic explosions or "bursts", the measurements of cosmic dust streaming inside the heliopause as been steadily increasing [6] to almost three times since the last solar maximum in 2001."

    If you read the article you'll see why that is a HUGE problem.

    I'd sure like to know why you think "the world as we know it" won't end. Sure the Earth, and some of us will survive, but it won't be the world as we know it.

    Be interested to know why you think it will?

    This is true. However, the object of the thread was to start an interesting discussion. Oh well.
     
  6. coreygeer

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    Asgard I did read the article and unless you're a "stupid person" I wasn't showing any offense to you so don't come in here calling out names..

    They're articles from the internet.. people are like children.. if someone puts together a few scientific facts and says "The world is going to end" everyone is all of a sudden interested and thinks it might be true.

    Don't come in here calling me an idiot though.. I'm not all much for the online child bullshit fights anyway.. you won't make very many friends in here.
     
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    Before anyone starts in with the usual name calling, it would be a good idea to read the article titled, "Twenty-Five Ways To Suppress Truth: The Rules of Disinformation" available online.

    It explains some of the most common tricks used to deflect attention from the real issues. It's an interesting read because you often see these tactics used by reporters, politicians, talk show hosts, journalists, and people posting to message forums and to usenet.

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    Personally.. in my opinion if there really was scientific evidence and scientists knew the earth was going to end on a certain date.. the government would never tell us nor would it ever let it go public or people find out.. specially on the world wide web.
     
  9. Asgard

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    The Government? Which one? There are quite a few out there. They certainly do supress things, but unless they were broadcasting it worldwide, I don't think they need worry. There is no need to mention it, as most people are not remotely interested - and wouldn't believe it anyway. People don't even believe their civilization will end in spite of history showing ALL civilizations rise and fall. No exceptions.

    People don't even grasp that they are truly going to die! Oh sure, they say they understand it but they live their lives as if they were immortal. When they get a terminal illness and are forced to face their mortality it completely freaks them. They go through denial and anger until most reach acceptance. Children are very good at getting to the acceptance quicker. In some ways terminally ill people are lucky, because they've had a 'slap upside the head' and can reorganize their priorities. They no longer waste time on fluff and develop a new appreciation for life in a way they couldn't have done before. They get their shit together and repair relationships. They finally LIVE.

    The Earth wouldn't be 'ending' anyway, the Solar System would be going through one of it's cyclical events. It won't be good for us, but we are irrelevant here.

    So what do we know as scientific FACT?

    1) On 21st December 2012 the Earth aligns with the 'galactic centre' of the Milky Way, an event that happens around every 26,000 years. It is known as the Precession Of The Equinoxes. Coincidentally, there are hundreds of prophecies around the world from various cultures which have chosen this for their 'end date', give or take a year or two. Think the Hopi go for 2014.

    That was the only clue to what might happen on this date, as nobody in history has been around for it before (which in itself is pretty damn awesome!). Half the prophecies are doom and destruction, half also include some kind of 'spiritual evolutionary leap' but until recently there was no 'scientific' backup.

    2) 8 years ago science discovered 'supermassive blackholes' at the centre of the galaxy. Ah, now we begin to see why an alignment might cause us problems. The galactic equator has a much stronger gravitational force and when we align with it, it MUST have an effect on us (as well as all the other planets). That link gave a good description of how the planetary barycenters will be disrupted.

    So we have some understanding why this would cause disruption (even if just a few earthquakes and tsunamis).

    2) We know for a FACT there is a Solar Maximum due on that exact day. A rather extreme one, and at the very least those electromagnetic pulses will severely disrupt our society. There has never been a society dependant on electronics when such a big Solar Maximum occurred so we can only speculate how bad it gets. Now taken with the gravitational effects of the above, it's not rocket science to see this ain't gonna be a good day, even if we ignore the prophecies and focus on the just known science.

    3) It is a scientific FACT that the highest energy photons ever seen in the galaxy have just been discovered. Coincidentally coming from the galactic core. It is also a fact that the cosmic dust piercing the heliopause around the Solar System has increased 3x since the last Solar Maximum in 2001 (which was a minnow compared to the one due in 2012)

    *Those photons are particularly interesting because New Agers used to insist the the Earth would pass through a "Photon Belt" in 2012 which would cleanse the Earth and bring on a new age of spiritual enlightenment. Everyone was just quoting the one dubious article though and I searched high and low for months for verification, without success. I was forced to dismiss it as New Age garbage. And yet, here we have what to all intents and purposes is indeed a Photon Belt. Gamma Rays. It'll certainly cleanse the earth if it pierces the heliopause as it'll fry us!

    While we can say 1 and 2 will definitely happen (bad enough), we do not have enough scientific evidence to say that these gamma rays will finish us off, so that remains speculation. However....

    4) Dr Paul LaVoilletes "Superwave" theory is particularly interesting if you read the full work. The polar ice core samples have recently vindicated him, and his calculations are sound. As his theory is based on a cyclical event, while it may not happen, it's cyclical nature makes it more likely that it will. It's just something the galaxy does periodically. :eek:

    *His theory also coincidentally matches a couple of prophecies. If the gamma rays pierce the heliopause and let more cosmic dust in (remember we already know for a fact they are increasingly getting through) then the resultant shockwave is going to send this dust spewing everywhere. The moon will be covered with red dust, the Sun obscured. There is something in Revelations about the Moon being covered with red dust. Even more spooky, the science shows that it'll start in the galactic centre and we will see the beginning of this wave as a 'blue star'. The Hopi Indians say when the Blue Star Kachina appears in the sky, we are toast.

    Of course the cave paintings, even though the rays match the 56 that the lab experiments showed - the so called 'z-pinch' - well that can only remain a coincidence if one doesn't want to believe that this cyclical event was witnessed and encoded by the ancients. It's certainly not scientifically verified, however connecting the dots makes it a logical explanation.

    There's an old saying that if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then it's a duck.

    Do you remember the 'Doomsday Seed Bank' that they recently set up in a deep underground vault in the Artic? Maybe 'they' know something we don't. If world leaders start going AWOL in 2012 they may be hiding their asses in those post-nuclear complexes they have all over the world. They could take a few million people.

    The rest of us? Not a lot we can do if not underground, and would you want to survive? I wouldn't. I'd have preferred to die in bed when very old, but it's pretty awesome being around for something that only comes along every 26,000 years, and a 'burning sky' would be quite a sight to behold. Can't say I'm thrilled about the rest of it though. :(

    Maybe it's time to stop wasting time on trivia and get our shit together. Focus on what really matters and live each day as if it were our last.
     
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    the world will end the day the snake gets tired you ever heard of the dogon tribe in africa?? watch this video towards the end listen for the part where the man talkin about the snake and the world and listen hard to and try to make a meaning out of what the man said basically it gose like this the man said their is a snake coiled around in a circle with its tail in his mouth and the day the snake takes its tail out of his mouth will be the end of the world now im african and this thisto me seems to be that this world we live in would never end by war or natural disastaer instead the day the curse is broken thats when the world will end meaning the world is runing because of a magical spell and that magical spell is the snake thats some scary stuff man.

    video

    h**p://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_Sf_lZ9Z70
     
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    Ahh these discussions. Inevitably they always pop up a few times a year. I think there are only two important facts that should be taken from any of these topics:

    1. Your life will end sometime whether its five minutes from now or a hundred years.

    2. There's not a fucking thing you can do about it.

    One of the greatest questions a person can ask themselves is if the world was going to end tomorrow, what would I do?

    The answer generally involves a completely different lifestyle than you live now. Barring murder, rape, and causing general pain in the world, I would say that you should ask this question to yourself often and then adjust your life accordingly.

    Whether or not the world ends, your world WILL end, so instead of living in panic of whether it will be an alien invasion, global warming, disease, nuclear war, or Jesus coming to down to fist fuck you before slitting your throat to cleanse eden, or more likely a stroke, maybe you should spend your time actually living your life with some importance.
     
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    Well In That Case, In 4 Years This Will Be The Most Attractive Girl In The World!

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    Good Luck With That :p
     
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    I read the article and the other links as well. Its mind boggling stuff...And its all science! Wonder if I'l be among the few who survive, lol
     
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    You may enjoy the surrealism of this little tidbit......

    From a Hopi Elder as told to Dr Robert Ghost Wolf:

    "The Purifier will appear as the Red Kachina, maybe that means it will appear red in the telescopes that the scientists use. It will remain in place for a long time. Like an eye watching us. That is when Saquasohuh, the one that is called the Blue Star Kachina will also return."

    And look what the Hubble came across in 1996. :eek:

    http://hubblesite.org/newscenter/archive/releases/1996/07/image/a/format/web_print/
     
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    Who even have the energy to read this?

    The earth is getting a lot of radiation form the universe every day. We also have a lot of background radiation in sertain types of concreet and from the ground (the Radon).. What's the big deal? It have always bene like that and it will always be.

    At least until the CERN Hedron particle accelerator is put into action in 2009. If we are lucky no one will ever have to worry about cookie stuffing and affiliate marketing again. That is if they manage to create a black hole and it eat our planet up. The world will be even blacker then the darkest black hat. ;)

    There ya people who are into conspiracy theories have something to keep you awake crying at night wondering if it will hurt when you get sucked into the black hole ;)
     
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    again like i posted above a magical spell is what keeps the world going the day that spell is broken aka the snake gets tired it would be the end of the world but that would not happen because african shamans are working hard to influence that snake from getting tired and keeps the world going believe it or not there are people that are watching this world you should learn about the egungun mask.


    Spacemen In African History?

    By Yemi Ogunsola The Guardian - Nigeria

    Have you taken a long, hard look at the typical masquerade? And an equally long hard look at the typical American astronaut or Russian cosmonaut?

    Have you noticed the curious semblance between the two? The face piece, especially?

    Can there possibly be a connection between, say, Yuri Gagarin, the 'first man in space' and a common Yoruba Tombolo (type of masque) cartwheeling to the cheers of a market crowd?

    Curiously, the Yoruba call the masquerade ara orun (visitor from heaven. But, is the astronaut not an ara orun too? After all, he travels in deep space (the heavens ñ even farther than conventional planes).

    Could it be that the cult of Egungun (masquerade) really is in remembrance of beings who in the ancient past travelled form the 'heavens' to the earth? Yoruba tradition interprets ara orun (masquerades) as spirits of long-dead fathers returned to visit their offsprings on earth.

    But why call such spirits ara orun rather than oku orun (spirit of the dead). Oku orun is more descriptive of someone who is in heaven in consequence of having died here on earth.

    Ara orun suspiciously sounds like a "living being" naturally resident in 'heaven' but who elects to visit the earth.

    The 'Ara' part of the name, in Yoruba means a 'resident of' or a 'visitor from'.

    Interestingly, from Yoruba folklore comes a song that sounds very relevant to this discourse. It evidently recounts an encounter between an earthman and an Ara Orun. The song goes:

    Lead: Ara Orun, Ara Orun Chorus:Inomba ntere tere nte inomba Lead: Kilo wa se ni nile yi oo? Chorus: Inomba ntere tere nte inomba Lead: Emu ni mo wa da Chorus: Inomba ntere tere nte inomba Lead: Elelo lemuu re o Chorus: Inomba ntere tere nte inomba Lead: Okokan Egbewa Chorus: Inomba ntere tere nte inomba Lead: Gbemu sile ki o maa loo Chorus: Inomba ntere tere nte inomba.

    Translated as:

    Lead: Visitor from (the) heaven(s), visitor from (the) heaven(s) Chorus: Inomba ntere tere nte inomba Lead: What do you seek in this land? Chorus: Inomba ntere tere nte inomba. Lead: I've come to tap palmwine. Chorus: Inomba ntere tere nte inomba. Lead: How much do you sell your palmwine? Chorus: Inomba ntere tere nte inomba. Lead: Ten thousand cowries per keg. Chorus: Inomba ntere tere nte inomba. Lead: Put the palmwine down and go.

    It is clear from the mood of this encounter that the ara orun or visitor from (the) heaven(s) being addressed is not a ghost. The Yoruba have a more appropriate name for ghost.

    It is Oku.

    Again, the average Yoruba man does not care to hold dialogue with an oku. He (or she) is more likely to flee in terror. However, our earthman here is clearly under the influence of plain curiosity ñ as opposed to dark terror: "What was the mission of the ara orun? He wanted to know.

    Again, why did the earthman call the entity Ara Orun? Did he see the entity descend from the skies (Heaven)?

    In fact, the use of ile yi (this land) while asking the being his mission shows that the Ara Orun was a total alien. That's how the Yoruba use the word.

    Fortunately again, the Ara Orun discloses his mission: To tap palmwine. Hardly anything one will call spiritual. That dispels any notion that the alien was probably a spirit being or an 'angel'.

    So, our alien was flesh enough to be capable of relishing the taste of palm wine or was from a land (or world) where palmwine is so appreciated.

    Back to the question, how did the earthman recognise the alien as being from 'Heaven'. Did he see him float down from the 'skies'? It should be noted that the Yoruba have the same word ñ Orun ñ for both sky and heaven (supposed abode of good people and Olodumare). Some times though, they take extra pains to use oju orun to distinguish the skies; so did the Earthman see this being descend?

    Again, a portion of his song suggests just "descent." We must, however, admit that at this stage, we are at the level of conjectureñ but reasoned conjecture.

    This portion of the song is the part of the chorus: Ntere tere nte. What does tere nte connote in the Yoruba language.

    For answer, we refer to yet another folklore. this one comes from the Ifa literary corpus.

    According to the story, reports reached Orunmila, the Yoruba divinity of wisdom that one of his wives was having an affair with a male mammy water (Pappy Water?)

    A naturally enraged Orunmila then trailed the unfaithful woman to the couple's rendezvous at a sea shore or river bank. He caught them in the act ñ and opened fire on (or macheted) the half-fish-half-man.

    Wounded the casanova fell back into the deeps and moments later, the water surface hen blood went blood-red.

    Now in great sorrow, the apparently unrepentant woman burst into a dirge for for her lover.

    Lead: Oko omi, oko omi o. Chorus: Tere na. Lead: Oko mi Oko mi o. Chorus: Tere na. Lead: Ogbe mi lo terere. Chorus: Tere na. Lead: Ogbemi lo tarara. Chorus: Tere na. lead: O tarara Oju omi Chorus: Tere na. Lead: Oju omi a feroro. Chorus: Tere na. Lead: Eja nla hurungbon. Chorus: Tere na. Lead: Oju eye perere. Chorus: Tere na. Lead: My love, my dear love. Chorus: Tere na. Lead: He bore me far, far away (into the sea) Chorus: Tere na. Lead: He bore me far, far (back from the sea). Chorus: tere na Lead: Along the highways of the waters. Chorus: Tere na. Lead: The expansive, limitless waters. Chorus: Tere na. Lead: The mighty bearded fishman Chorus: Tere na.

    Tere re in this song clearly indicates "great distance", the great distance the lovers covered as they traversed the waters during their illicit affair.

    The other part of our original words: is easily clearer. In Yoruba, Nte connotes "floatation", "high" or "air-borne".Thus we have Lori Oke tente (on the very top of the hill), Ate (a hat worn on the very top of the head. And ole tente (it floats pretty).

    Thus, a combination of tere and nte suggests something "floating down, air-borne form great distance, from far away."

    Thus what the Tere nte chorus is probably telling us is that this visitors from the heavens, this aliens, floated down from a great distance.

    We can now wonder. Did the Yoruba, indeed , Africans, make contact with space being or extra-terrestrials in the ancient past? And did they preserve these encounters in their folklore and folksongs?

    I was still "brain-storming" over all these, digging into litreatures on Egungun and allied matters when a most fortunate clue literally fell on my laps.

    There is this weekly Ifa programme on the Broadcasting Corporation of Oyo State (BCOS). Anchored by Wale Rufai, it features stories from the Ifa corpus by an Ifa priest, Gbolagade Ogunleke Ifatokun.

    Being one of my favourite programmes, I was listening on Wednesday November 20, last year when a brief digression in the discussion brought up the issue of the mutual respect between the Ifa priesthood and the Egungun cult. Ifatokun, declared flatly that an Egungun must never whip an Ifa priest. (Egungun o gbodo na Babalawo), especially by reason of an ancient alliance between Orunmila (founder of the Babalawo school) and the Egungun at a time in the ancient past when the Earth was threatened by a deluge of Ifatokun's story held me spellbound.

    According to him, the real meaning of egungun is Mayegun that is, "keep the world in order" or "those who keep the world running smoothly."

    In the distant past, Ifatokun related, there occurred a deluge, which threatened all life on earth.

    Seeing the earth so imperilled, Orunmila, and other (Irunmales the divinities) who were resident on Earth then, sent an S.O.S. to Orun, (Heaven).

    In response, the Ara orun, came to the Earth in special costumes.

    These costumes, said Ifatokun, had the unique property of drying up any portion of the inundated earth over which they were swung.


    The "Egungun" cult sprang from this incident of the invitation of these heavenly beings.

    The special and elderly egungun who wear imitations of these today are called Babalago, Ifatokun said.

    So, the Egungun (Mayegun) cam from orun (heaven, Space) to rescue aye (Earth) form the deluge.

    The modern interpretation of the Ifatokun story is glaring:

    When the deluge hit the Earth, extraterrestrial beings resident on Earth, among whom was Orunmila, himself, sent an S.O.S to their home planet. And in response, extraterrestial hydrologists landed on Earth in spacesuits (and, by inference, space craft) to rid the Earth of the excess water!.


    Of course, the matter does not end here. Some sailent questions have been raised, especially by this last account.

    For instance, Was Orunmila truly an extraterrestial? were the Irunmales or orisas (divinities) extra terrestrials?

    For instance, was Orunmila truly an extraterrestial? Were the Irunmales or Orisas, extraterrestials? The answer is Yes.

    However, that is another story...


    Story originally published by The Guardian - Nigeria By Yemi Ogunsola

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    h**p://www.rense.com
     
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    Mayans were pretty smart lolololol

    Crap why do people fall for stupid so easily ?

    The Mayans were very evil complex pantheon of deities whom they worshipped and offered human sacrifices. Apocalypto was a great movie to see .Now while just a movie it showed those liberals who seem to think white people destroy the perfect world of peoples like the Mayans that the Mayans were corrupt all by themselves.

    So why anyone would think they are the super understanding of end times is beyond me.

    Crap extraterrestial lolol man people are truely stupid !!!
     
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    here are some youtube videos of the Egungun masquerade

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvoqJfsmHm0

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FHPWLgD1TY
     
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    The next knock on your door is likely to be men in white coats for fucks sake.

    Tony