The current state of Youtube views (February 2018).

Discussion in 'YouTube' started by Aprium, Feb 25, 2018.

  1. Sutharsan

    Sutharsan Newbie

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    I bought Livestream views from a panel.
    at end of campaign it was around 3300 Watch hours.

    but, after several days total watch hours dropped to 1200.

     
  2. Wilburnator

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    How many views did you buy? How long was the live?
     
  3. Sutharsan

    Sutharsan Newbie

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    I bought 5k livestream views from justanotherpanel.
    500-1000 people live for 1-2 hours
     
  4. TehVigilant

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    Are his views working for normal videos?
     
  5. Sutharsan

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    I didn't tried it yet. I bought several live stream views. it worked, later got deleted.
    no idea about normal views.
     
  6. TehVigilant

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    if they get deleted after then this service is not good...
     
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    Certainly. the algorithm is being deleted.
    throwing you back in the plan.
    This algorithm was drafted by the University of Harvard, based on user-based consideration. Please enter your username and password. Event is recorded and close contents are presented to this user. Again, I believe that some ip based applications have also been added to this algorithm.
    After watching a video, the user writes a dislike or comment. You can share the video or add it to the playlist. The viewer who is not logged in can not perform these activities.
     
  8. Seagate44

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    What...?
     
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  9. Aprium

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    summarize,
    now YouTube wants real user. :)
    Youtube counting log entries :)

    a) If the viewer just watches and closes the browser (if you have received 100k bot impressions but no events from those ip addresses and the impression from the users)
    b) If a viewer does not like the video,
    c) If these types of activities happen on the same IP address.
    d) If the video on the Unlist is watched seriously by users who have not logged in,
    e) For example, if the video with 1000 impressions is shared in 3/5 k fields such as twitter and facebook
    f) If the impressions and playlist are not compatible with the addition rate.
     
  11. escobart

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    wow, so hard nowaday for youtube views seller who just resell views without their own method :(
     
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    Yes mee too I expect a solution. I say we should not be pessimistic, but it will be very difficult.
     
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  13. Aprium

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    Not everybody is going to watch a youtube user while logged in, that's a very small minority. I do agree that not a single logged in user on thousands of videos looks suspicious.
    You mean sign in locations? Like IP addresses?

    According to youtube a view is counted if a video is watched by a viewer for ~ 30 seconds. However, I think you might be confused though. Those bot impressions are all done by a browser as far as I know, so those events you mentioned will be registered. I think it has more to do with the fact that most people sending 100k bot impressions are really messy and have the same fingerprint.

    The fingerprint isn't just the User-Agent , screen size, screen depth, but other factors that Youtube checks for sure.

    You can't really have 100% logged in users all liking a video or disliking it, that looks so unrealistic. You should do have some sort of likes and dislikes on your video per every 1-10k views.


    Now, that's just dumb and I doubt anyone is seriously providing hundreds or thousands of views on 1 ip. It's impossible because views would just get deleted afterwards.

    Are you saying if the video is using the unlist method and is suddenly found by not logged in users?

    I don't know about this completely, because at the end of the day there are a lot of social sharing videos that get picked up and go viral.


    What exactly is this addition rate you are talking about?

    I'm with you on that one, as I strongly believe that the whole is stronger than the sum of its parts. Only united as a network can you take on Youtube. There will be a solution soon to this problem, soon we just need to keep up the faith and hope things will pan out.


    Just a few days ago I've seen 2 panel owners asking for anyone that can provide non-drop , instant views on the Hire-a-freelancer and Want-to-buy section. That goes to show you that eventually the most desperate will indirectly admit that they are just merely sellers, or that their methods that everybody were using was technically the same.

    It should be known that many panels are simply resellers and few, if any of them, have a working views method. An interesting thing about these dark times is that there has been a couple of panels claiming that botted views are done as a method, and now the only remaining views are "real" and "safe" views possible. Funny times we are currently living on.
     
  14. Seagate44

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    Guess its good time to crush competition which relies on buying views. Since they cannot do it anymore...but on the other hand, those who did for last years, now are not so easy to be crushed :( my competitiors with 200k+ subscribers...how do I compete with that when I cannot even buy views now, and my organic reach sux?
     
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  15. Aprium

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    I really don't know what to tell you. Besides I know how you feel when the play field isn't the same for everyone. On your case, I think you probably should keep pumping more videos, and wait at least 4-6 weeks. Most likely, in 4-6 weeks words would get around about a new source of views that do not drop. From all of those panels on the BHW market that compete fiercely amongst each other, is just a matter of time before one of them finds the golden goose of Youtube views.

    Other panels will find one way or another the method/source/supplier for any SMM that manages to succeed, so by then the prices will start leveling out.

    For now, all I can say is just wait it out.
     
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  16. Seagate44

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    Haha yeah bro, waiting, I do wait since november, always problems with views since then lmao (I read older threads, seems like they have problems from time to time since the beginning of 2017)

    Not waiting tho, I do direct marketing beside that.

    Hopefully things will change soon!
     
  17. Wilburnator

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    So are livestream views typically working? Anyone have experience using those to boost watchtime hours?
     
  18. Seagate44

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    Few sellers have views up again. Did you guys use them? Do you recommend any specific channel for the best effectiveness when it comes to ranking boost?
     
  19. Seagate44

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    Am I the only one to notice that buying views don't help boosting video at all?
     
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