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The art online war - Destroy a website from the top down

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by gorang, Jun 14, 2010.

  1. gorang

    gorang Elite Member

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    In my years of experience online i've come to understand that the actions your take on and off-page concerning your website has an effect on what Google determines for your website in their index.

    They determine the factors for ranking and each factor will have an effect on your site.

    I've had my fair share of websites where they've mysteriously stopped ranking, become deindexed or penalized.

    The question is not if a certain type of backlink or on-page content has an effect on your site. But rather, if it is a factor, what kind of effect will happen.

    I've often voiced my opinion about backlinks against the bandwagon. My experience has taught me that the theory which states "you can get a link from a bad neighborhood and it will not have a negative effect" is false.

    There are factors I have judged to affect how deeply a website can be hurt by bad backlinks but that's another thread.

    So in this thread we will take for granted and accept that bad links will do damage to vulnerable websites.

    Why are you going to war?

    I've been scammed for a few hundred quid from a website and I have no power to shutdown, however I do have my online marketing/SEO skills and will try to damage their site in Google.

    So here are some good tactics to take out "that guy you hate who fucked you over"

    On-Page content is the easiest route to getting a site deindexed.

    1. If the user has a forum, find a list of very malware/virus heavy content and become a very active member of the targets forum. Begin finishing every post with a smiley like this :). Wrap the smiley in your <a href> tags and your virus website. Do this for every post, ping using pingomatic and submit Google Spam Reports.

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    Use www.siteadvisor.com/sites/goggle.com to help select good dangerous backlinks to drop into their forum.
    Alternatively, if there are other vulnerable forms of input on to the site exploit them to the full.

    2. Send a very professional letter to their host explaining a copyright issue or some other reason to get the hosting for the target suspended.

    3. Use "security testing" software like "metasploit" to to look for server/website vulnerabilities and exploit them. This can be a little advanced. Look for signs of plugins, software types on their site and then look for the appropriate exploit, load it and fire away. (eg, vbulletin version, apache version)

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    www.hackforums.net
    www.milw0rm.com
    4. Use bad SEO software to build nasty links

    There is a lot of software out there that can do damage to a young website, sometimes irreparable damage as i've found out in the past.

    Message board blaster pro

    This piece of software has never failed to destroy some of my own websites. The only bad point is that i don't think you can dump anchor text into the posts. But you can fill the post with negative words like suicide, snuff or whatever. The software posts to around 1,000 boards in which every single post of the website has viagra or some other sort of spam/dangerous links. Apparently, every forum board had been created by the software seller, so this is a great tool for hurt the rep of another site. It successfully destroyed one of my sites completely and it has never managed to come back from page 200+.

    Resource; http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/black-hat-seo-tools/2089-message-board-blaster-pro.html

    Ping Scripts


    There are a few pings scripts out there which are very dangerous. I had a very strong website which has been in and out of penalty ever since i used a dangerous script on it. The script used some websites which had a lot of viruses on. I can't find the post right now but it is a php script you upload to your hosting then run on your site. It would post to around 1,000 websites. It seemed good at first but people began complaining of virus alerts and then I noticed a huge drop in rankings on the target sites.

    PR Storm

    Use PRstorm to spam referrer the bejeezus out of target site onto matt cutts blog or google itself. Be extremely spammy. Possibly make them ban the proxy which you should use. Spam everything, everywhere. Google does take notice of this kind of activity. That's why they tell you not to do it.

    It's late, i'll contribute to this post more in the coming Days.

    If anyone would like to test the theory that off-page can impact your site feel free to give me a site i'll see if i can do damage.

    This will be a running thread and i will update periodically. Please contribute good software or tools which can destroy a site in Google index.
     
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  2. Mr Pheer

    Mr Pheer Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Why do this kind of crap? You'd be much better off spending your time and resources to make money instead of being a vindictive child. In the end you're no better than they are.

    Quit giving them power over you, and then you win.
     
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    agreed completely
     
  4. jazzc

    jazzc Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    Beautiful post, full of information. Keep up the good work.
     
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  5. Jared255

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    Thanks for the advice mom! Or you could fight back and wipe them off of the SERPs, in that case you'd win also. :)
     
  6. Shownuff

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    Hey this is blackhat world. Never forget that. We are all here exploiting something in one way or another. His exploits may be too dark for some. But they are exploits none the less.
     
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    I know xrumer has been used for this exact purpose. Same kind of idea.
     
  8. magicman8585

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    you can get banned for talking about that read the forum rules please
     
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    Man whatever happen to just turn the other cheek.

    You have the whole wide web that you can work off of. The amount of time and effort to take someone site down you could have put that effort into your site and made some cash.

    Kill their business by being the better person and better marketing.

    Carma can always come back around. Play nice and everyone can win online.

    Billsboardonline
     
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  10. AboutBizz

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    @gorang... All due respect, but karma is a load of crap. It sounds good to say what goes around comes around, but frankly... it doesnt. Altho' I see why others are saying not to waste your time @gorang, I understand your feelings. I've got a situation of a few online a$$es who have nothing better to do that make comments about me in my local online community. It's great to think that people will know better and be able to distinguish truth from lies... but thats not true.

    Sometimes idiots like these need to be taught a lesson. This a$$es in my situation went as far as to post my home address and personal phone number in their forum....all because I refused to argue with them and refute their lies and instead I decided to take the "high road." It endangered my wife and kids and even after nicely asking them to take it down and asking them if they understood what position it put my family in, they just laughed and made more comments about my request online.

    So its easy to quote platitudes when you've never been in this type of position, but I say "do what you gotta do." Just realize it can consume you and your time...so count the costs.
     
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  11. blight12

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    In some cases you may have really impressive competitor taking your number 1 spot, that you know you may not beat for another year or so. In that case it makes this necessary.

    However if you are just being lazy and want to deindex a number of front page sites, instead of properly promoting yours, well then i agree with Mr Pheer.
     
  12. Posiedon

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    It seems to me that it comes down to how far you want to make it in IM.

    Personally I would be willing to do whatever it takes to make the money I need to sustain my lifestyle, BH or WH. I do enough BH CPA stuff to not be fussed about getting someone deindexed if it means that I make extra $$$/day

    I guess it comes down to your conscience and whether or not you listen
    Ive always been known to have selective hearing anyway :D
     
  13. gb5000

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    As I sit here reading this thread, I'm still scratching my head as no one has pointed out the obvious (at least to me its obvious). So I will start my concerns in question form!

    Number 1.
    How do you know your "competitor" is not reading the EXACT same information that you are reading in learning how to take him down? I mean, after all, you didn't pay SHIT to read what was written above, so do the math.

    As SOON as you get your site up in the serps, or ANY site that is similar to his, what happens if he suspects you? Or just start attacking Innocent sites by buying Xrumer blasts and going off?

    What happens if both you and the competitor pulls the same techniques on each other?
    Cause nothing is stopping the info from getting out there, so what happens when this becomes standard practice?

    I'm always thinking of long term consequences. So if I just fucked up your high, I apologize in advance! :D

    Can anyone answer?
     
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    Sound logic gb5000. I guess its one of those things. Chances are that he'd be pissed off, but on the other hand, you think that he'll be any happier if you beat him fair and square. Whats to stop him from taking your site down if you over take him using seo.

    If you stand back and look at it, its actually quite funny that you could end up taking each other out. Then their'd be some inconspicuos 3rd party that would take the number 1 spot. lol

    I guess I would never really need to do this cause Im pretty sure that I can take the first spot in any niche I approach, because I do my research before entering the niche
     
  15. gorang

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    To clear a few things up;

    1. I don't believe it is a good idea to use this thread to destroy a competitors website.
    2. This thread has been a long time coming
    3. Using this knowledge won't allow you to progress in IM
    4. With so many saying "all links are good links" a thread like this was bound to happen sooner or later
    5. There's no moral dilema, you don't have to use it. This is a thread to show you it's possible
     
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    Thanks, I really apreciate that you took your time to write this
     
  17. confuzion

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    pretty crazy stuff
     
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  18. Cloaks

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    Everyone should stop complaining. OP just put the info out there. Use it if you want to, otherwise stay silent. There's a lot of useful info in this thread, the question whether to use it or not depends on your ethics.. Which shouldn't be discussed here.

    Imagine you had done a lot of SEO to get to rank 10 for a very, very big keyword. Getting to rank 1 might take you another year, and then you'd earn TONS of cash. I would rather spend a day on each site above me, taking each of them down, than using a year to get to #1 whitehat-style. Of course that might just be me, but the person using the dirtiest methods usually wins (in the short run, anyway).
     
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  19. bobvance2006

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    would the virus method work for a blog page in the comments section (assuming the comment went live)?

    also, can you extrapolate on the virus/malware method? do you just link the smiley to a virus website? how long does it take to get the page down? what are the limits to this?
     
  20. duglus

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    thanks for this cool information