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The Alex Becker / Gregory Ortiz ecosystem of puke

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by Michael Stizza, Mar 8, 2017.

  1. Michael Stizza

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    Hello BHW!

    WARNING: This post is going to be a long rant over the aforementioned individuals.

    I am new to SEO and have been dedicating myself to learning the in's / out's of SEO. When I first started researching this industry, I was drawn into the "Alex Becker and pal's" ecosystem (what I now feel is an utter puke fest). I spent hundreds of dollars buying into his "tactics" through the various products and services he sells (many of which are BROKEN).

    Personally, I am a firm believer you're going to waste money and make stupid decisions with ANY new venture. I like to think of it as the cost of tuition. But this dude really rubs me the wrong way...

    1.) No upkeep whatsoever of his legacy videos. Many tactics and optimizations simply don't work anymore
    2.) Constant spammy emails with VERY little substance and all hype. Here is prime example of "Becker Puke"

    "SEO buddy...Becker here annnnd
    tomorrow afternoon we are having
    a call showing how Greg recently
    went up against SEO agencies
    generating 10s of millions a year...


    And beat ALL of them in a head on
    winner takes all SEO contest. He
    took their spots for some insanely
    competitive SEO terms and we
    want to show you EXACTLY how
    he did it...."

    What the FUCK does any of that mean? What contest? What agencies? By what metric(s) were they beaten? But he doesn't stop there...

    "You are going to see
    -How to make a SEO business step by step
    -How to get your first SEO sale this week
    -How to get your first SEO client
    -#1 Super Competitive Rankings and Their Live Links
    -How We Generated 4 Million+ Visitors To Tiny Videos In 2016
    -How To Rank A Profitable Website In 15 Minutes
    -Top 5 Affiliate Rankings That Are Bringing In 5k Per Month
    -The Exact Backlinks, On Page SEO, and LIVE Rankings
    -How To Rank #1 In Your City Wth SEO
    -How To Do All The Above SAFELY"

    Holy shit. I don't even know where to begin on all the bullshit.

    I am not hating the man for running a (supposedly) 5m a year business. He obviously found his buyers and is great at suckering people in with super hyped up bullshit. What i've learned is he and his buddies control uber-powerful PBN's and are very selective with the content they show. They will also rank super long tail keywords with literally no search volume.

    If you've stuck around this long, I have two questions..

    1.) Does this guy actually have anything to contribute other then the 90% BS he spits out?
    2.) Who the fuck is Gregory Ortiz and does he actually have any qualifications?

    /endrant
     
  2. gussieboi

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    I never bought any of their services but the gregory ortiz guy does rank for the keywords new york seo and los angeles seo. It gives him some credibility but i usually avoid the hype around SEO gurus.
     
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    dude you said it yourself you are new to seo, greg ortiz ranks number 1 for the term new york seo and LA seo. now who the fuck are you?
     
  4. Ste Fishkin

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    That doesn't mean shit.
     
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  5. moonshine7000

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    Scammers of a feather flock together.Becker is in bed with Tai Lopez.Guru scams are all over Youtube.
     
  6. dbanjo

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    Everything you need to know about seo is avaliable online for free. I've never bought an online marketing product in my life and I've ranked just fine for the last decade. It's people looking for shortcuts/methods that fuel this shit. Without the usual idiots these guys wouldn't have anyone to sell to.
     
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    Since you are new at SEO, here is a piece of advice - you will only need 3 things to succeed at it:

    1) BHW - the mother of all courses/e-books/whatever.. not to mention that the downloads section most probably will have most guru books/courses you might wanna read and review before spending any money.

    2) Testing - if you don't test shit for yourself, you will never succeed. Think of BHW and every guide/thread on it as a collection of "SEO models" you can follow. The more models you read and test, the better your results will be.

    3) No model/guide/method will EVER be 100% accurate, period. Every single one of them is based on guessing and experience. No one knows the algorithm except Google and its engineers. So, keep an open & doubtful mind about everything you read in here and on the internet related to SEO. That's why testing (point #2) is CRUCIAL. ONLY when you test for yourself in your niche with your own keywords will you truly know if something works or not.
     
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    I have an seo site that ranks for the same keywords he is ranking for, so who gives a fuck?

    I once went into his fb group of Alex Becker and he was so demeaning about a simple refund trying to look good and when I won the debate he simply kicked me from the group, but at least he let me keep my konker account so I could spend more money there. Got to hand it to the fucker he does know how to hype shit and make $$ from noobies which is bad karma imo but its life and what happens errryday.
     
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    it means he knows what the fuck hes doing
     
  10. mickyfu

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    Wow fuck me a keyword with 800 search terms and low comp. Must be big time shit.
     
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    I've seen that happen a few times.
    Konker is so full of scammers too, yet buyers rush there and get screwed over. There was 1 seller offering to build Adsense sites and promising $500 a month Adsense income. Site was $400 to buy and then $100 a month maintenance fee ( to get the $500 )
     
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    Or he hired someone who knows wtf they're doing.

    Or he bought the website from someone who knows wtf they're doing.

    Or he's lying about knowing wtf he's doing.

    The people who actually know what they're doing in SEO don't brag about it like ruhtards hyping up glue sticks. They aren't gurus or mainstream fuck offs. They're just regular people trying to make money like everyone else.

    A lot of them are on this forum, laughing at you right now.
     
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    Becker makes pretty much all his money from software. He started out doing SEO but a lot of what he preaches is out dated, he's just living in the past. He does still provide value from time to time. Like with any guru, take everything with a grain of salt. Test, and form your own opinion.
     
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    Greg is a nice guy, knows his stuff and is very down to earth.

    It's like life, you meet up and move in the same circles as some great people, some good people and also some fuckwits tag along too.
     
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    I can show you how I ranked on page 1 for terms like "RPG", "MMORPG", "MMORPG", etc ... in 2011 ... I won't charge arm or leg. OK, fine, I'll tell you now - ALN. What worked last year, does not mean it works today.
     
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    bah, so much hate for someone who's willing to teach people for a certain price...waw, big deal! how about we hate on all the teachers and professors that taught you through all of your school life how bout that? they made money doing the same thing :) and FYI, i learned a ton from greg and alex and im making a living with what i learned. can i learn all of it for free? fuck yeah! but it will take you ages through trial and error, wanna do it? be my guest. Internet trolls love to hate on others, lets cut to the chase here.

    p.s: im not saying all of them are legit, anyone can call themselves a 'guru' you need to do your own due diligence. Just stop the fucking hate already, the world is big enough for eveybody
     
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    Hate implies I care enough to invest time and emotion into something or someone.

    I don't.

    Tatty bai.
     
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    If I were you, I'd murder my English teacher.
     
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    obviously you cared enough to reply twice on some thread talking about some guys that you don't even know, fucking blows my mind these people...
     
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    if i were you, I would respect people who speak foreign languages. I am fluent in 4 languages. easily more than you.

    How about this, lets take it to the next level, tough boy keyboard warrior: give me your skype right now and lets have a chat, lets see how many languages you can fucking speak :)