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The $1,000,000 challenge !

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  1. Michel

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    Hi,

    yes you see the headline correct.
    I'm going after the big one $1,000,000 in one year.

    I'm looking for x people to get there.
    Why? I have to many ideas to do it on my own.

    Here is the deal:

    You will become my partner in this.
    What will you get as my partner?

    - Hosting (dediacted, VPS)
    - Dedicated IP's
    - Membership software (Butterfly Marketing software $1,497)
    - Fantomas Cloaker ($2,700)
    - SEC tutorials
    - Site-Gold free membership
    - Cloaking advice $97 per month free membership
    - eCovers $37 per month free membership
    - My software for free (now Yahoo answers $197 for free soon it will be $497, more to come)
    - All my ebooks, software, scripts ($1,000's and $1,000's, all the latest is in here)
    - 124,000 double opt-in email list where you can advertise your product to.
    - and whatever you can think of!

    IMPORTANT: I'm not going to give these for free, you have to become my partner to use these..............period.

    What does it mean to become a partner?
    There will be a member only forum, not open to the public. There we will discuss how to get the $1,000,000 per year.
    This amount will be divided by the members.
    There will not be 10's of members, it will be a lot less!

    You will get a share off the profit, but you will have to do the work with me.

    STOP reading those BS ebooks and STOP using software that doesn't work!!
    I will give you the ebooks and software that DO work for FREE once you will become a member.

    What will it cost?

    $297 per month

    Do you think that this is too much?
    How much money are you making right now on the internet?
    Would you like to make at least $50,000 per year?
    Stop trying to do it yourself, become a part off my team.
    This IS the big one.

    Interested?

    Just send me a PM.
    Questions? Just send me a PM

    Not interested?
    I wish you all the luck with your efforts and I mean that!

    There is a limit to the members I accept and I will only accept members that are willing to put in the time and effort.

    Note for current members from either one off my sites:
    What you paid already will be deducted from the $297 !

    Just let me know if you are interested.
    We are going to make at least $1,000,000 in 2008

    Michel

    PS This is a BHW offer only! I will only accept members from here, so you have to prove you are a member!
     
  2. Ruck

    Ruck Guest

    Erm,

    Correct me if I am wrong but how exactly is this being a partnership?
    Your requiring people to pay you to become your partner?

    That's more like network marketing. With all the stuff your offering
    it looks more like a membership type thing.

    A partner is someone you team with, there's no reason to charge them.
    If I charged one of my partners a monthly fee to join me they would tell me to get f#cked. I don't see how giving them all this stuff makes them a partner? Partners are created equal. Meaning, they have just as much access to everything your doing, and they are included in any thoughts that need to be discussed before implementation. This not a partnership, it's a dictatorship in which you allow certain people to team with you.

    Partners have to trust one another completely and be branded in equality, this is far from it. While you probably have good intentions, you probably should consider changing your wording around as it could potentially confuse people. Another thing that makes it blatantly obvious that this is not a partnership is that it looks like you are offering a *share* in this.

    Again, not knocking you but the wording in this post is very misleading and
    could potentially confuse a lot of people. While this could indeed become a partnership I would advise to get the necessary Non Disclosure Agreements drafted and incorporate yourself as a limited liablity company. I ain't offering law advice, I am speaking as someone that has been here and gotten screwed over before. Also, I only posted this publicly because you are requesting interests by pm so it needs to be known that there are some really weird things going on in the post.
     
  3. Michel

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    The reason why I called it a partnership is because people will get the same share.

    So if that is wrong in the English dictionary, I will call it a membership or whatever.

    The main fact is still $1,000,000 in 2008 for an equal share!

    So thanks Ruck for correcting that.
    It will be a MEMBERSHIP!
    Now correct?

    Michel
     
  4. Nick Flame

    Nick Flame Executive VIP Premium Member

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    I see that you have tried this kind of experiences in the past

    http://cloakingforums.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/8886009592/m/8041079682?r=9901057782#9901057782
    and here
    http://cloakingforums.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/8886009592/m/7011086272?r=6051082082#6051082082

    Did any of them had any success?

    And i have another doubt that gets me start putting more questions

    Some time ago, a member here was posting as a matter of fact one of your posts at another forum where you were charging 1000$ for a cloaked page. No problem from me. I looked up at that forum and had a look at all your posts out there, and i remembered this master group idea that you were trying to implement.

    Now, when i have seen your post, i remembered about that forum and i wanted to check whether did your projects had any success or not. The issue is that when i searched for that thread in this forum, it vanished. I may be wrong, but i looked up in all categories and even used the search function and i do not find it. I had to use other methods to find out the links provided above.

    If the thread still exists, then i am sorry, i am not trying to accuse anyone, but if not, do you have any idea why that thread has vanished?
     
  5. Michel

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    Sorry Nick???

    Anyone can read those posts and see if they are valid.
    It will only show that I'm making a living on the internet full-time with cloaking and anything else.

    If making money is a criminal act, please report me!

    The post was taken of because I had enough members.
    The same goes for this post, if I have enough members it will be gone.

    ?????? I just don't understand your post. What are you trying here?
    Did I ever do anything wrong here or on the SEC forum?

    You don't have a clue what you are talking about.
    Do you have any cloaked sites that work or ever made software or do you have a membership site where you help people?

    Strange.......................
     
  6. Michel

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    Oh and one last thing Nick.........

    If I was scamming or trying to pull someones leg, don't you think I would have made another nickname???????

    I'm not that stupid, so that can only mean I'm legit.

    You don't have to become a member, just keep on doing the same thing you are doing now............

    Michel
     
  7. Nick Flame

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    I do not think you got me right.

    I have asked if every of these projects of yours have been successfully or not.
    Seeing that this is not your first experience , we would be curious to see whether did you succeed in the past or not, maybe not at such high level, but to show at least a little bit that you have some experience with this things, especially since you ask for payment. What is wrong with that? You tried to set up these kind of partnerships before, did the succeed or not, did you quit them etc.. that was my question.


    For the post that i am talking about is a post here, at blackhatworld, a new thread started by another member was posting as a matter of fact a link to another forum where you were offering cloaking services. Nothing complicated so far. At that time i followed the link and have seen your posts there as well as these kind of projects. Now when you have started this new project here, i remember about that and i was planning to take a look at that forum again, to see what feedback your projects have received over there.

    The issue is that i could not find the thread where there was the link to your forum. You could not request dave to close it since it was not your thread.
    This is my question: did you request dave to close that thread, or it vanished by itself, or it is still in the forum but i did not find it.?
     
  8. Michel

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    On this Forum?
    The $1,000 SEC project on the SEC forum?

    If I have asked Dave if he could take it of?
    You are joking, first of all I don't mind that people see that I'm asking $1,000 per cloaked site. Second, just ask Dave if I have asked him to take it of and post his reply here.

    Here is my answer: Of course not

    Show my results to you on my past efforts?
    Don't think so after your strange posts.
    Others can ask me when they act normal and not start some stupid witch hunt.......

    Haven't seen your reply to my post asking why I didn't make another nickname?

    You think I'm some scammer, again why didn't I call myself eur,kghbwkerhgkwherg in this forum? It is easy.

    You can check every forum I'm a member off, everywhere there is the same nickname.
    '
    MICHEL
     
  9. Nick Flame

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    YOU say:

    Oh and one last thing Nick.........

    If I was scamming or trying to pull someones leg, don't you think I would have made another nickname???????

    My answer: No, because you need the reputation. A new user would not get as much attention as you here. Do you think that when spammer23 thought to scam he took another user?

    YOU say

    I'm not that stupid, so that can only mean I'm legit.

    This is nonsense, if you are not stupid, it means that you are legit or what?


    YOU say:

    You don't have to become a member, just keep on doing the same thing you are doing now............

    I am doing well, thanks for your wishes.

    The truth is that i regard you very skeptical since your yahoo answers thread.
    Useless to repeat, someone has posted there a fake review about your product, and it was a fake review, not ordered by you, but the fact that you posted after him and DID NOT tell the people that that one is a fake review, shows that you have no character. Perhaps if the fake review was not to be spoiled by essential clix, we would not find never that was a fake review.

    I am NOT saying you are a scammer, your yahoo answers software i heard it works pretty well, congratulations, but there are small things that you observe in the forum and you can figure out that some people are not completely honest.
     
  10. Michel

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    You say NICK:

    and you can figure out that some people are not completely honest.


    I HAVE NEVER EVER LIED TO SOMEONE!!!!!!

    NOT MY CUSTOMERS, MY WIFE OR KIDS

    And your remark about the so called review for my software was from someone that tried to get the software for free doing that. And he didn't.....

    What kind of person are you? You don't even know me.......
    Now I'm really pissed.

    After tomorrow I will be gone here.
    You can thank Nick for that. (and you can figure out that some people are not completely honest.).

    Michel
    PS You can ban me now Luther or Dave I don't care when people are making stupid remarks here. These kind of people make good forums go to hell
     
  11. Ruck

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    Michel,

    No need to get defensive man. He's not on a witch hunt nor is he calling a scammer. This is a really big offer man. I know personally because I have law binding Non Disclosure Agreements and LLC's setup with various partners in Florida, Texas and California.

    There is nobody here accusing you of anything man. This is a large offer man and the fact that people are questioning your background should be of little importance to you. To them it's VERY important. You are offering sharing but give no details except to contact you by pm yet you made a public post about the proposal.

    This is really nothing. I can put your mind at ease real quick with a short example. If you search my name in google you can clearly see that a vigilante blogger accused me of phishing on myspace. This one blog post alone has cost me Jv's and partnerships since it got indexed. I don't hide, I clearly tell the asking people the situation. I can't say anything about it now, as I took some heat from Fox Media but I make it perfectly clear that I have done blackhat things, I currently still do some shady practices on certain networks on the net.

    If it costs me partnerships then so be it. At the time I didn't care, but I see what it costs me now. The point is that even though I don't talk about it, if I am approached by someone asking specific questions I will tell them the truth or in the case of the phishing incident I must respond with no comment.

    So nobody is *after* you here man, just looking for some more information man. Shit, when you said 1 million dollars I started sweating. I won't make this year but maybe with some more completed projects I can make it next year. It's a dream number that can easily cloud the mind, but partnering with someone is a very serious thing man, so don't let it bother if people start to question you. Just respond to the best of your knowledge, and whatever happens will happen man.

    Best,
    Ruck
     
  12. Michel

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    Thanks Ruck,

    I know you are right.
    I have changed it to a membership already and I'm not joking $1,000,000 can and will be made just watch me..........

    What I hate is that people make stupid remarks.
    You can always ask me anything, just read my posts and I will answer the best I can.

    Asking questions about this is normal. $297 per month is a lot of money for some people so I know and understand that, what I don't understand is people going after me and making strange remarks. Posting forum threads from other forums like I'm some scammer and saying I'm not honest!

    After tomorrow I will be gone here.........
    I have better things to do, but I will be back after one year and stating here to Nick the Dick and anyone else that I have made my first million.

    Again, thanks Ruck, I always liked your remarks here.
    Hope you will become a moderator.

    Bye and see you all in one year!

    Michel
     
  13. Michel

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    Oh one last thing before I go to bed.

    Do you mean this post Nick you Freak:

    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/black-hat-seo/1687-ready-build-sec-site.html

    This thread has been live since it has been posted.
    Not deleted like you say.

    Do your research before you start making dumb posts..........

    Michel
     
  14. Nick Flame

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    Dude, i asked if your projects were successfully or not. Why you feel so offended? You could answer, no, they were not successfully since i could not find people alike minded, or people looking to put some effort in it. That's it, we would not worry, i know you can not partner with people that are not dedicated to a task. The second question maybe was a little inopportune, but i was just curious because i was pretty sure that thread existed and i was frustrated when i did not find it. I thought you might have asked to close it, or what happened to it? It is not likely to see threads vanishing from forums without any reason. And i understood, ok, you do not know anything about that, what is the problem? You could tell, i have never seen that thread, and i would understand.

    Starting and swearing like that is useless. I am nothing here, not a mod or something so that you have to leave just because you quarreled with me. As a matter of fact, you might have even be elected as a mod, so you could have banned me now.

    I am also a sincere person: I use the same username at all other forums. (lol)
    People put questions here, it is normal. You try to sell a lot here, this is not bad, if you have value to give, this is excellent. But just because someone has asked some simple questions this is not a reason to start flaming.

    I got my question to the answers:
    first, you do not want to tell me whether your projects have been succesfully or not since i am a suspect individual. OK.
    second, you have no idea about that thread that i am talking. OK.
    I am now out of this thread, let you continue your sales and wish you plenty of luck with your projects. May that all of you became millionaire so that i can boost in the future that i had once quarreled with a millionaire.

    Respectfully,

    Nick Flame
     
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    Yes, that was the thread i was talking about, thank you very much.
     
  16. UrbanMyth

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    Very strange. There is no indication in any of Nicks posts that he is attacking Michel in any way. All Nick has done is ask legitimate and simple questions that only required simple answers: not the ranting, raving and, to be frank, extremely offensive responses from Michel. Very strange indeed! I was considering the offer, but not now. I have a feeling that others will have the same view (or maybe not)
     
  17. October

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    The way I see it, either Michel makes 100% of his money through these MLM scams, or he makes 75% of his money doing these scams.

    Getting a partner for $300? Come on, why dont you have an audio file that we can listen to? Maybe show us a couple pics of cars and boats you own in florida.

    I make over $1mil/yr with my online business. I have a business partner. We both brought things to the table, saw that we were right for each other, and signed a contract and opened a corp.

    I came to this site mainly for some shady techniques of spamming people:) what I am finding is people scamming others.

    I know a guy in Georgia that is into MLM, he's a fucking maniac. Like he believes the shit he spouts. I guess thats why he is so good. But the real sad thing is that people like him and you, Michel, prey upon naive people.
     
  18. Michel

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    Hahahaha,

    it is getting better and better.

    October, you know it all.............. I don't know anything!
    Very nice reply from you, I can see that you know what you talk about.

    So this is my last post here for at least a year.

    Nick, perhaps you are right about your first 2 posts, but the third one
    did it. The scammer and not honest part.
    My reply was over the top......agreed. Your post caught me in a bad moment so, sorry for that one. Gone too far.

    Whatever others may think what I can or can not do, I wish you all the best of luck. Stay focused and you will get there.

    Bye all,

    Michel (out)
     
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    Too bad, this sounded interesting.

    I feel bad for the people that bought his software, I hope he doesn't shut them out too.
     
  20. UrbanMyth

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    He sounds like a spoilt brat
     
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