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Terrible SEO 1st Place What is/was the Mindset Here

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by InsanelySane, Mar 2, 2014.

  1. InsanelySane

    InsanelySane Power Member

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    I'm seeing a thin site on a low comp keyword ranking 1st in google. What this guy has done is created a 1 article for the homepage. He has then created 9 categories in the sidebar with alternatives versions of the same keyword. ie "product-name"-reveiw, "product-name"-download

    Each category anchor text in the side bar loads the exact same article 9 times with 9 different permalinks (category/product-review-pdf/, category/product-review-download/, category/product-guide-review/, etc). To avoid duplicate content it looks like he no-indexed the duplicate categories.

    However, he also has those same 9 categories keywords again linking to duplicate content through tags (tag/product-review-pdf/, tag/product-review-download/)

    He forgot to no-index these so these 9 pages of duplicate tag pages are indexed. Every single one of the 9 /tag/ duplicate content pages has the same fucking META description in the SERPs as well.


    I am wondering:

    1) How is he ranking 1st for this keyword with this shitty spam on-page seo? My assumption is he will get slapped in a week or two, but how did he even initially rank? Let alone 1st place.

    2) What is the mindset here, this goes against everything I have learned?
     
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  2. sogeking

    sogeking Power Member

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    google isnt god mane. its prolly a churn and burn or something. definitely not gonna last very long
     
  3. InsanelySane

    InsanelySane Power Member

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    I see your point.

    But if I glued shit to my face and went to the clubs, I dont assume I will pickup the hottest girl in the place. Only for her to wake up beside me the next morning and grow repulsed, slap me and leave because I have shit on my face.

    I assume I would have never even got in the front door of the club in the first place. Let alone left with the hottest girl.

    You feel my really bad metaphor mane?
     
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  4. lagger

    lagger Power Member

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    Yes but if you give that same hot girl many strong drinks, she is gonna give you the ride of your life. Sure she will be under the influence and not know what she is doing. But you will get to ride that pooh-nanny.

    Same thing with google, give it strong backlinks and it will give you a wild ride. Sure the ride is short and sweet but you get to ride!

    Do you follow?
     
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  5. zx123

    zx123 Senior Member

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    I am curious to see this site just to verify and analyze it :D
    please PM it
     
  6. lover

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    They may purely be ranking because of backlinks.
     
  7. andrewabd

    andrewabd Registered Member

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    Agreed with lover, unless he is ranking for a long term keyword with no competition and also no search volume there is no way site content can do the job by itself .. check his link profile check also if the site was redirected from another domain
     
  8. tony_d

    tony_d Elite Member

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    Well, I'll let you in on a secret.

    If you caught me midway through ranking a money site, that is pretty much exactly what you would see, and you'd scratch your head and wonder why...

    So here's why;
    When I have a money site I want to rank, I build anywhere from 1 to 10 sites (exactly like the one you described) and then I SAPE & 2.0 them to a high ranking. Literally within a few days of them getting a high ranking, I 301 the thin sites to my money site, and, hello, within days my money site is #1 'out of nowhere'...

    So watch this space - he could be doing the same thing :)

    EDIT: PS; it could well be one of my sites you're looking at, I have 6 at #1 right now that match the description you've given :D
     
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  9. clogbuster

    clogbuster Newbie

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    I have run into a situation right now, where I through some wet paper on the wall to see if it would stick. ( like late DEC 2013) first week, fluctuating 1st to 3rd, now I added another and both are fighting each other to stay number 1. and by the way, its ranking number one k-word. nothing special done, in fact, simple as can be. my experience is limited. But I am where I wanna be. and I have done same in other city. still running top 3 for 2 years.
     
  10. domainmadness

    domainmadness Senior Member

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    Not sure if anything interesting, probably just some clutch in algorithm that makes it rank with backlinks. But either way, I can take a look also if you don't mind sharing that site via PM?
     
  11. Nuker

    Nuker Regular Member

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    can you give more informations ? domain age, ahrefs links number, page rank ...
     
  12. ButcherBoy

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    Backlinks are the answer...
     
  13. sogeking

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    yes but consider that shes blind for the night at the club, but for some reason regains her sight after she wakes up next to you
     
  14. InsanelySane

    InsanelySane Power Member

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    Okay lets pretend it was your site. I can understand the strategy somewhat. Super relevant sites. However, what is the point if all your 301's get slapped? What is the reason for the 9 duplicate tag pages and categories anchors? Why not just make 10 1 page non duplicate sites? I am assuming any link potential would be lost if you got slapped?

    Also I am wondering in regards to this strategy. Does it actually work? Is the super hyper relevance of making multiple sites like this have similar effects as a pr blog network? Since there all new their less trusted but the hyper relevance must add something right? I have thought about doing this but how do you get away with the hosting? Wont it be odd when 10 sites from the same host on the same topic are redirecting the a site on the same host? I doubt you buy 10 different hosts. Whats the deal here?

    Also the site was on a feminine product using the 2012 theme.
     
  15. Linking World

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    well sometimes it happen when few of the people using spamming techniques still they are getting their keywords on top.

    But my friend don't worry whenever Google update their algorithm they will lose their rankings for sure.