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  1. proxygo

    proxygo Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    the pc i use on bhw has an issue advice please
    not the 1 im on now....

    was on my pc tonight and we had a 2 second power cut
    off / on...

    i tried to turn on my pc -- nothing -- tried another power cord -- nothing
    plugged back in the original power cord it booted to desk top.
    after 30 seconds froze out. lock up. tried rebooting about dozen times
    same thing froze after 30 seconds.

    booted to safe mode ran checkdisc no issues i could see
    and while in safe mode 15 mins didnt freeze
    booted back to desk top normal mode froze after 30 seconds

    now im on my gaming machine..... any ideas
     
  2. MafiaBoss

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    1. open up the case.
    2. remove all the cables (inner and outer both).
    3. remove ram units.
    4. if you have a blower or whatever the machine that remove dust from electronics devices by blowing high pressure of air use it.
    5. if you have two ram units, install one and try turning your pc.
    6. if it work fine great.
    7. if not install second/third so on.
    8. i hope that helps.
     
  3. proxygo

    proxygo Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    why would it run in safe mode no lockup
    but on a normal boot lock after 30 seconds on desktop
    ps - my bhw pc is 5 yrs old, never let me down b4
    not b4 this power cut . pc has 1 stick 2 gig memory
     
  4. MafiaBoss

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    5 years old, it completed it life span i am sure.

    the faults can be in power unit or ram sticks.

    if you have a extra memory stick somewhere just test with it.

    lol, i bought a pentium pc back in 98 i think it ran 8 years without any problem.
     
  5. travanx

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    My PC recently froze and I rebooted into Win 8 and the keyboard would no longer work. Turns out I had to remove the keyboard, boot into Windows and then plug the keyboard back in. I guess the freeze messed up the keyboard driver? A power outage could probably do something similar. A random driver not working right. Random file getting corrupted. My PC is about 5 years old now too. The easiest fix is format and reinstall. Or you could try a restore from previous. That never has worked for me in the past which is why I say just reformat.
     
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    yup i agree with travanx, you can try re-installing the OS too, in case my solution do not work which can save you some time.
     
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    it sounds like there is something wrong with the little hamster inside the hamster wheel inside your case, maybe feed it carrots instead.
     
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    The power cut corrupted files from some of the software loaded in normal mode, which is not loaded in safe mode. It crashes after 30 seconds because that's probably when one of those corrupted programs tries to do something that is scheduled after the bootup.

    Please don't let me go into my lightbulb conspiracy theories. In my opinion Windows is designed to self-destruct and make itself unusable after 4 years so you gotta buy new hardware.

    Install Linux and your machine gets an extra 4 years lifetime.
     
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    try a system restore
     
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  10. SombodyLoLz

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    your machine is stuck in a ram loop, it's trying to access a piece on information that is not on the ram anymore<br><br>clean the register and enjoy.
     
  11. Roshaen

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    Is there any recent software that you installed result in dumping thats not letting you run it in normal mode.
    Or take a look at start ups.When you start your pc what are the softwares that load when it reboots in a normal mode.
    OR may be your window or some of its files are corrupted.Try to restore to OS to earlier stage when it worked .
     
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    A long time ago I had an issue with a desktop where it would do something similar. I would start the PC everything would be fine for a few seconds and then it would restart. We had an "IT guy" take a look at it and he was of no help, he couldn't solve the issue. I thought if its broken I might as well play about with it, so I took it apart completely, cleaned it up and used fresh thermal paste for the CPU, put it back together and it started working better than before, no issues whatsoever. Good times. :D

    PS. I have no idea what caused the issue back then but it was definitely some kind of a loop. Like Somebody mentioned above, yours might be a ram loop.
     
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    If this is the cause then try to do a start up repair. Follow the instructions here:

    http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/681-startup-repair.html
    http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/products/features/startup-repair
    http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/7728/
     
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    Some good advices up there!
    But if nothing works for you,then you can give this site a try:
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    [URL]http://www.protonic.com/[/URL]
    They provide some really professional help for free!
     
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    Just use System Restore. If that doesn't fix it you'll probably have to reinstall Windows.
     
  17. Nigel Farage

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    Post specs of power supply. They are usually shitty and cause data corruption. bartsimpson's explanation is most likely, but with a bad PSU the corruption is ongoing. Boot to BIOS and look for voltages, 3.3, 5, 12 etc... and post them. 10% off one way or the other is bad.

    Linux is a stinking turd. It would be King right now except Linux Users refuse to make an Ubuntu that looks and works just like Windows. They are assholes like that, just like those arrogant Mac Users and their la-ti-da attitude about not getting infected. Linux would be great if Microsoft were in charge of the GUI. All that stuff about typing nonsense words like "mount" and "lba", "pdq" and "sda01" I mean, c'mon. Call the fucking hard drive "C:" like everyone else. But no, Linux users have to be DIFFERENT just for the sake of being different. These are the same dipshits in High School that acted like they didn't care that no one thought they were cool. And now they control an entire operating system and flat-out REFUSE to help anyone out by making it more user-friendly. Fuck no, they say shit to you like "All you've got to do is recompile the kernel of the grub boot loader at sda01 and enter "authenticate SASL" at the Unix shell prompt." and they say this shit to you with a straight face pretending that "everyone talks like this". It's no different than if you showed up to the bus stop in broad daylight with your dick hanging out, acting like "everyone walks around like this". What Linux Users really need is a punch in the fucking mouth when they say shit like that to people. They'll stop walking around at bus stops with their dicks out too.

    Anyways, Linux is a stinking turd, and Linux Users talk nonsense and walk around with their dicks out, so you should ignore anything they say and whatever you do, don't act like them otherwise you'll wind up being a registered sex offender like most of them are, and talking crazy shit with other whack-jobs. Imagine what two Linux User cell-mates talk about (and do) in their cell in prison. Fuck, give them a computer and they'll be content to spend their entire lives there, the fuckin' whack jobs.

    And if the PSU is bad, don't waste your time on a Piece of Shit to replace it. Spend some $$ on it and get a good one, with 80+ efficiency or better.
     
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    Welcome Back, we missed your take on the world.
     
  19. proxygo

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    my bhw pc is a piece of junk - built in 2008
    but in 5 yrs only thing to ever go is a stick of memory.

    specs - 2.2ghz athlon -- psu 500w -
    80 gig hd. cd drive . nvidia 8400gs

    switched out the psu today for an identical 1 i had in the loft
    still twitchy , removed g/card and went to onboard graphics
    still twitchy.

    did 20 min prime 95 in safe mode and normal mode no errors
    then still these random lock ups sometimes every few mins = reboot
    or not for an hr, but this all started after 2second power cut 2 nights ago
    no issues b4 that.
     
  20. Nigel Farage

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    what's the make/model of the PSU(s) and voltages reported in BIOS. Also, keep running chkdsk. Sometimes hard drives have a "downward spiral" where the errors increase until failure. if that's the case, chkdsk will give you some warning. A bad PSU can kill memory, so there may be a common denominator. Run memtest86 and report results. Also, check & monitor temperatures. I like to use SpeedFan for this, as it gives you a graph of temps or fan speeds over time.