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[Talk] About Blackhat SEO

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by calebmann, Mar 11, 2012.

  1. calebmann

    calebmann Power Member Premium Member

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    okay.. so what is the reason that everyone continues blackhat SEO when it is obviously,, not working to good anymore.?

    Don't get me wrong, i am sure there are still some methods that can fool google. but here is the thing, and i want everyones opinion.

    MATT CUTTS HIMSELF IS ON BHW!? So he obviously know's what we do and how to counter it, than man is really smart! I mean, I really feel like he sits at home reading BHW laughing at all of us because everytime someone posts something new about a BH method, he can read it and find a way to counter it.

    now i know that there are some things BH that are really hard to counter. But all the experts out there, i ask you. Have you had better success with BH or WH?

    I really am interested in knowing. I dont believe we can get away with the things we used to. I also feel there is no point since whitehat SEO is so easy.

    We can use our tools for whitehat seo.

    there are some of us that know how to actually use the tools instead of just spamming the internet. but if you think about it, that itself is more to be grayhat than blackhat because we are actually not spamming at all. Simply providing relevant content for our niche.

    What do you think? I thought it would be an interesting talk.
     
  2. harry911

    harry911 Regular Member

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    Whitehat linkbuilding is an oxymoron.
     
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    Sorry but your post seems to be a sales copy for your sig.
     
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    pixelgrinder Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    You immediately lose credibility and any chance of a reasonable discussion when you're promoting your 'white hat seo' service.

    But Ill bite anyways, using only white hat isn't better. You should be mixing both, by building quality links and using blackhat to improve the power of those links.

    And Matt Cutts? Who cares?
     
  5. calebmann

    calebmann Power Member Premium Member

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    actually this had nothing to do with my service

    you guys cant get in on a talk without finding a way to talk crap? this has nothing to do with my service. I will take it out!!
     
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    Wealthy Wisdom Power Member

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    LOL at the replies so far... same thing I was thinking once I hit the bottom of post to see his sig haha

    I also agree with dude that said use a mix.. that seems solid and could potentially get you some good results
     
  7. calebmann

    calebmann Power Member Premium Member

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    And, nice addition to the talk. This is how i do my SEO, and how i know many other people who do theirs.
     
  8. harry911

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    Calebmann: Do you even know what whitehat seo is?
     
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  9. calebmann

    calebmann Power Member Premium Member

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    hahahahaha
     
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    kingofbigmac Regular Member

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    Blackhat is working fine for me followed up by Whitehat ;)
     
  11. scorpion896

    scorpion896 Senior Member

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    SEO is supposed to be done naturally, so anyone trying methods to improve their SERP's in an unnatural way is considered blackhat seo. Therefore there is very little you can do to qualify fitting under "whitehat seo"
     
  12. harry911

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    Exactly! This calebmann guy is a joke! He calls himself a 'white hat seo provider'. I don't understand how anyone can 'provide' white hat links.
     
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    calebmann Power Member Premium Member

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    haaaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahaahahahaaha
     
  14. accelerator_dd

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    The concepts remain the same. There are different strategies of linkbuilding being shared, but there are some variables from which is depends if it will work or not.

    I couldn't possibly list all of them, but here are a few tips that might give you a good idea of what I mean:
    1. Spinning content - You can spin your content a bit or you can do heavy spins. It's not possible to see if that's a result of different articles or one spun if you spin it a lot, but most people don't - because it takes time and effort. BH SEO isn't easy, it is harder and offers bigger returns.

    2. Error free spins - no grammatical errors maybe?

    3. Spam domains - You might have noticed that when you blast with AMR or senuke, some articles are deleted, some aren't, right? Well most people make lists of auto approved directories, and some post good, some post VERY BAD stuff. For example, once i was testing a tool I coded, and i broke the spintax so I posted an article with curly braces { } and different versions all in one. Some of those didn't get deleted! Those domains are marked as spam because the spam is too obvious. The ones that delete your articles - get the quality so they stick and you will get the results you expect.

    4. Free vs. Paid - A lot of people use free stuff to rank, which is OK, but the paid stuff brings more results. So either you invest a lot OR you work a lot. You can't expect to work less and invest little, that's just not how it works.


    These were only on top of my mind, but I hope you get my point

    These are my views, maybe I am wrong, but this is what makes sense to me and this is what i've concluded from my experience.
     
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