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Taking too long to rank...losing hope in IM again, require quicker money making ideas.

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Ranko Jones, Jul 25, 2011.

  1. Ranko Jones

    Ranko Jones BANNED BANNED

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    This shit is really killing my self esteem. Every time I check my serps (which is like once every 30 minutes) and it stays the same or goes down it is like a steak being driven into my heart.

    I'm afraid empty 'just keep at it and you will make it!' statements will not do.

    I have been battling like a spartan warrior for MONTHS AND MONTHS trying to rank for a crumby 1k keyword and losing miserably.

    I'm ok with ranking being a long haul thing that you chip away at but I think I have to find a quicker and more reliable way of getting income in the short term to tide me over- one for monetary stability and two for my sanity and feeling like I am not a total pitiful loser.

    So what can I do? I tried putting a scrapebox ad on fiverr but no interest there.

    I have been trying to learn imacros but that is mind bogglingly frustrating so that nicely adds to my extreme stress levels.

    Next thing I know I'll be having to stoop to scamming people with diseases (I jest but I'm getting desperate- which ironically means I am now a ripe target for any scammer reading this).

    It's pathetic that I only have to make a measly $150-200 a week in the short term and I am failing pitifully at it while the deadline to make it grows closer every day.
     
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  2. jb2008

    jb2008 Senior Member

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    Make a new site and use a different SEO plan. And another one. Compare the results of the different SEO approaches and the plan which gets results, scale it up. But really, if you've got a short term deadline for income, and you're depending on G to meet that, and all its algorithmic whims, that's really not a good idea. The only sites I've got to the first page have taken around 6+ months. New sites seem to be under a lot of scrutiny, even if they're not necessarily sandboxed they're not ranked as quick as before.

    Maybe try and sell some of your stuff on ebay if you've got anything of value.
     
  3. nethead01

    nethead01 Regular Member

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    Obviously you haven't read and implemented very much.. If your new to IM then you should not make it you only source of income, make it a hobby and make it fun by trying out new things. You win some you lose some there is no other way. I been in IM for a while and im still winning and losing but its fun!

    It's fun because I failed on my last project but just cashed in on this new project that I have been working on so it makes up for the failed ones..

    It's a game and once you get good at it then its a job! :)

    work a full time job and find a project you want to start then go to freelancer and hire someone to do the work while your at work and just watch your ideas grow..
     
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  4. nethead01

    nethead01 Regular Member

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    Oh by the way I see you have 700 posts in just a few months? You need to get off this site ASAP and don't come back for at least 2 months, within that time work on new projects. You must know something by now as much time as you spent here so go do something!

    bhw is a black hole that will keep you away from getting anything done lol i been there
     
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  5. Hogare

    Hogare Registered Member

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    Hey,

    I've been in exactly the same situation you're in now, so I know how miserable you must feel. I started with a simple site, worked on it for about six months and just when it started making a couple of bucks, it got sandboxed. And the niche was pretty easy,too. I had no other sites at that time, so I was desperately checking the GA only to find one or two visitors actually visiting my site. After a month or so, I said f*ck it, I'm gonna make twenty sites. I stopped checking the stats for this sites and focused on the new ones.

    I was about to let the domain expire but then it got out of the sandbox and all of a sudden, it started ranking on first page for multiple terms. In the last three weeks, this site made me $160. Not bad since I haven't updated it for close to four months...
     
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  6. secretboy08

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    search torrents on bhw and apply anyone technique.thats for shorter term.
    and rankings need not always take time.
     
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  7. Expertpeon

    Expertpeon Elite Member

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    Honestly it sounds like you've done nothing of consequence in order to rank.
     
  8. loswarrior

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    In my opinion, you are focused on only one thing! Negative feelings are going to be focused too, if your checking your serps like that.
    Look for less competitive gigs on Fiverr ( i.e SEO reports....can be done free online then zip them and sell em :) )and try some of the many money making methods on here. Go to the gym, get outside more, in other words, take away that negative focus.
    Don't get down adapt and good luck.
     
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  9. wokaka

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    how old are your sites?
     
  10. smellycat

    smellycat Newbie

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    Why don't you try PPC? With the right products, plan, and site you could easily make a good living. Then build on said site with SEO after you've determined whether the product(s) converts.
     
  11. Ranko Jones

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    6 months and around 3 months.
     
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    Ranko Jones,

    What are you trying to accomplish with your sites. I was in your position when I started out a few years ago. You need to stop listening to all the noise on the forum. What exactly have you done so far? Break it down for me.
     
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    With some positive attitude and patience, you will succeed. ATB :)
     
  14. LBrown

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    Ranko, as far as you SEO strategies, you've gotten a ton of advice: change monetization, change niches, change backlink strategy. You've got to change something because what you're doing is not working.

    For making money until your SEO income starts kicking in, have you looked into writing? From your posts your English and grammar are excellent. You could advertise services here or respond to those looking for writers or go to some place like freelancer. That's what I did to make money before I got the hang of SEO. It's not fun work but it pays the bills consistently. There is a ton of software here to help you out, particularly look for the 7 minute article and Instant Article Wizard if you go this route.
     
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    Personally I would stay away from PPC if you are already having a hard time with SEO. PPC will work if you have the money to start with. You cannot expect to make some serious money unless you have some capital to start out with. Specially PPC with Adwords depend a lot of your history with Google, and the niche/keywords you are trying to buy into.

    And if it is so easy to make a living in SEO, then everyone will be working from home doing just that. You just have to be patient. Keep trying. If you think you have exhausted all possible marketing techniques for that niche, then move to another niche. It is throwing blindly throwing darts, hopefully one of them will stick.

     
  16. SuperLinks

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    Not what you want to hear but you need to stick with it!

    To be successful, and especially with IM, you will have many more failures than successes! It takes time to understand what works and what doesn't. Do people strike it lucky and "make a quick buck" with IM? Sure..Although those people are FAR and FEW between.

    I'd recommend focusing on what you are passionate about, and then owning that niche. That can be something like bowling, hunting, etc. Become the number one guy in your space, and I assure you that you'll figure out how to monetize that. Best part about it? You won't get burned out before you make that money.
     
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  17. Ranko Jones

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    LOL so ironic that you say I should focus on what I'm passionate about since that is what got me in those shitty niche mess in the 1st place. I jumped into my current niche with no keyword research simply because ppl said just focus on the niche you love.

    Anyhow apart from that I have a passion for SEO now hence why I do it 12 a day which is why I'm frustrated this tough whore is not putting out :). I love the idea of marketing for the sake of marketing where you can rank for anything relying on SEO as your main skill.

    I totally agree that everything that's worth doing takes time to learn (or everyone would be doing it etc.) but having some whiffs of progress are also important for both sanity and motivation I think.

    Ye all that writing is my own.

    Writing is really easy for me I just didn't go down that route or haven't yet cos I didn't wanna sap from my SEO studies.

    Even though I'm not currently making money all this work is really valuable for long term cos I'm learning loads whereas writing I'm already good at. Of course I may look into it if I really have to but I don't think I'm that badly off yet. Still plenty more stuff to try with SEO for now, mainly new niche.

    As for my action plan changing niches is my next port of call.

    I appreciate all the suggestions and helping a brother while he's down. :)
     
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  18. SuperLinks

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    Are you sure there's no way to pivot your site into something more broad?

    No sense in throwing away all that effort and time. There's gotta be a way to salvage the site and maybe "broaden" the topic slightly.
     
  19. oblivion19

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    care to share ur site, keyword u were trying to rank and your backlinking strategy

    Im sure it will be easy to point out what went wrong there..
     
  20. bigeazy

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    Nethead is absolutely right. Ranko, I have been doing this only for a few months as well and I have sites in finance and insurance ranking top 10 for very competitive kw. I've been on BHW longer than you and I barely post cause all I do is work on my sites.

    You're gonna notice, I thank alotta ppl but if you dig deeper you will see the majority of the thanks are for something funny or in the Lounge forum. I go there when I take brakes. There's some funny azz $hit like:
    mugshots drama
    blackhat puzzy method
    muscle teen pic raping
    pof - "I saw your pic - I am an artist and this is what I think you look like"

    Its pure comedy. Quit posting and start working man. Its not about how many posts, thanks, jrvip or rep you have. Its about what you got in your bank account at the end of the month :D
     
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