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Take over top ad spot from another affiliate

Discussion in 'Adwords' started by xr4ti, Jun 18, 2009.

  1. xr4ti

    xr4ti Registered Member

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    Hello -
    I'm running a campaign that is direct linking to an affiliate offer. I would like to take over the top spot but so far I can't get any of my ads to show. I currently have a keyword QS of 10/10. Google won't display my ad because I have the same destination URL and I have 0% on the CTR because no ads will show up. I have set up a high cpc but still my ads won't show. How can I get any build up on my CTR if they will never shows my ads? Are there any tricks I can do to take over this top spot?


    I sometimes see other people take over the top spot for a short while but the main guys always seems to be back within a few minutes. I really want this top spot and will do anything I can to get it. Please if you have any idea's or tricks please let me know. If you don't want everyone to know please PM me and I will keep it private. thanks!
     
  2. blackberry

    blackberry Power Member

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    Xr4ti,

    Hit me up with a PM and I will see what I can do for you.
     
  3. GoogleBling

    GoogleBling Registered Member

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    can you buy a domain and re-direct to your affiliate offer?
     
  4. cpaaddict

    cpaaddict Supreme Member

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    lol try this.. you say your destination url is the same. well change it then. do a search in google for your niche. look at the top ten natural results. not adwords ads but natural results. then grab a domain from any of them. use this as ur destination url.

    then go into your keywords and edit all. you will see there is a box to enter a url for each keyword. this is where you stick your own link in. either affiliate link or redirected domain..

    did that make sense?
     
  5. bargain

    bargain Junior Member

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    Does this actually work? Or do you end up getting banned?
     
  6. greyhatdude

    greyhatdude Regular Member

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    Yeah, I'd definitely buy a domain as the first step before I'd pay for PPC. You could even just redirect it straight to the affiliate offer if you'd like.
     
  7. cpaaddict

    cpaaddict Supreme Member

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    works for me....
     
  8. BlackHatCodeBreaker

    BlackHatCodeBreaker Registered Member

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    This sometimes works. However, Google also redirects, so they know you're onto the same ultimate landing page, so often it's no soup for you..

    But you can get your own domain and iframe the original domain, using your hoplink for the iframe. This will provide Google with your own landing page, and the user with the vendor's page.

    Sure, they can see through it, but my experience with this has been much better than with pure redirects or just using the hoplink in my AdWord.

    Cheers,
    Brad
     
  9. xr4ti

    xr4ti Registered Member

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    that makes tons of sense. I just figured that a direct link to the affiliate page that includes my trademarked keyword I was going for would have a higher QS then another domain. I will try it with another domain that is in the top 10 results though and see where I can get with that. I really want this top spot as the CTR and traffic is about 10 times higher being in this spot. The conversions seems to be a lot higher as well.
     
  10. genomicist

    genomicist Newbie

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    As long as your quality score is 10/10, you can pretty much bid anything you want. When I have a competitor when I'm direct linking, I will bump the bid WAAYYY up to overtake the competitor's bid and I still only pay a few cents/click. Try that if you don't want to get a different domain.

    Make sure your daily budget is high in order to do this though.
     
  11. premiumsource

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    TIP: use a subdomain or a different country domain to show for that keyword. So for instance if it is a big site sometimes something like this will work subdomain.mainurl.com or mainurl.ca or co.uk or .ie....of course it all depends if they do have subdomains or different country extensions. I've been doing this for a while now and I still come up with a 9/10 or a 10/10 quality score.



     
  12. xr4ti

    xr4ti Registered Member

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    I have done this but I think he has his max bid set to $100. I haven't gone that far with my bid yet. I think my highest was $80.00 I pulled back though cause I was scared that I would be charged a huge amount but the more I think about it the more I realize that I might be wrong with that thinking.

    I'm looking to replace his ad with mine. We are both pointing to the same final url so in reality we can't compete against each other as far as bidding goes. Google will only show the ad that is the most relivant to the keyword as far as I know. So say I do Bid $100 on the max CPC the chances that I will pay anywhere close to that are slim I'm starting to think. ( am I right to think this? ) idk.. As far as I can tell the highest max cpc for this term was around .60. If I have a max bid of $100 will I be charged closer to the .60 range as long as my qs is good. I'm still green with all of this still but I'm diving in hardcore.
     
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  13. xr4ti

    xr4ti Registered Member

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    That was my first thought. It's good to know that I'm thinking like a pro at least ;) The problem is they don't own any other domains that I have been able to find yet.


     
  14. xr4ti

    xr4ti Registered Member

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    I have another domain already for this but I rather send them direct if possible. The affiliate site is listed high organically in google already (top spot for the term i'm going for) and I feel that if I use another domain then there is no way I would ever beat my competitors QS. Also I want to drop a cookie on them right away and not have them click threw to get the cookie set. I know that I can cheat this but I also know that if I do that My competitor will complain instantly and I will prob. be banned.



     
  15. This-N-That

    This-N-That Newbie

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    Look up Affiliate Hijacker as a guy here at BHW wrote this program that will clone any site for you in just a couple of minutes and insert your affiliate code making sure you get the sale. It is designed to meet the TOS of both Google and services such as Clickbank, CJ, Amazon...pretty much any affiliate program. It's $47, and well worth the money.

    Just my 2 cents.