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Surveys don't unlock the file and are impossible to complete

Discussion in 'CPA' started by Pete Friedman, Apr 18, 2015.

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  1. Pete Friedman

    Pete Friedman Regular Member

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    Hello,
    I decided to put myself into downloader's position and see what steps have to be taken by the person downloading the file to complete the survey and unlock it. I tried mainly Cleanfiles but also Sharecash and CPAGrip. Despite trying multiple times, different offers, different countries, proxies, online phone numbers, fake data, etc. I was unable to unlock even a single file. Most of the times there was a neverending chain of surveys, none of which seemed to unlock the file. Why is that? Are CPAs companies simply becoming scam? And how they even ensure that a survey was completed? By cookies or some other means?
     
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    Here is the reason why:
    Put yourself in CPA advertiser's position. Would you want to pay for a fake lead?
     
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    Well, I once tried doing a survey and it worked fine for me. As soon as I submitted the email address, it showed in my account. But I still agree that it's quite tricky most of the times, that's why people hate it. Otherwise, everyone would be doing them. :p
     
  4. Pete Friedman

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    But I think it's not that they implemented some measures against fake leads that could detect that - maybe if I was doing fake leads over and over they could be suspicious about the same user agent, OS, lack of cookies in all leads but I tried it only once, just to be sure so I don't really believe that I was blocked somehow.
     
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    They have a lot of data to know if your info is real or fake, like it's very easy to tell if an address is fake, or a phone is fake, or whenever you are using a known public proxy, but you can find and use real info too. Also, a lot of advertisers, especially for incentivized offers like the ones in Cleanfiles/sharecash shave a lot of leads, because their criteria is a lot stricter as converting such leads is harder. So it's almost random whenever it will pass or not, but the more legit the information is the more chances for it to convert.
     
  6. Pete Friedman

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    Well I actually used private proxies and data from fake name generators which all seemed legitimate. The only drawback I can see may be phone numbers that are publicly available. I always ensured that a survey accepted the data I input (so even phone numbers appeared to be validated) but maybe they have some additional protection which is not immedietaly visible but operates quietly and performs some kind of a second validation. Anyway, thank you for your response. :)
     
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    I always try and do one own sign up for every new network I join, to make sure everything is in order and stats are updated in real time
     
  8. HoNeYBiRD

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    from one sign up you can't really tell how legit the network is, all the more so, because they use quite a few advertisers and if it's an email submit, it will never convert 1:1 or else they would go bankrupt, although you should see the click on your stats page for sure, but for that it's enough to click on the tracking url, you don't have to fill out the form/submit your email etc., but if you do, it won't necessarily become a lead
     
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    A lot of advertisers have their own anti-fraud systems in place that make sure that the information provided is valid. There are different variables they use to spot that. 2-3 years ago things were a little less strict when it came to leads. Most of the time when you see an offer with a high payout for a country like US for example, you can bet that the fraud detection is pretty high + a high chance that there is co-registration involved.
     
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    I think these PPD networks send a certain percent of users through a endless cycle of offers.

    They pay you for the first lead but if the user does more offers they keep all the money.
     
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    No. PPD networks don't do that. The advertiser dictates the flow of a survey. The advertiser can however decide to use co-registration on the user flow. Which is what you're referring to, having multiple surveys in one survey. Co-reg offers usually pay higher then non co-reg.
     
  12. SamLewis

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    Because you have inside knowledge of every PPD network?
     
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    I don't think CPA networks try steal your leads, they always try to incentivize affiliates for a simple reason, they don't want to get you in a frozen zone, if we think about it, affiliates are the ones who get the leads, sales, money for the network. Why would the network try to discourage you to get more money for them?
     
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    Actually this is really weird. In the past, i tried to complete surveys to test how it works and about 1 hour later, i was able to unlock the fucking survey.
     
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    Been there, done that and not a single trial has reached the final step
     
  16. google123

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    I hate CPA...

    Especially for downloading content.
     
  17. HoneyHelper

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    did you submit your email as '[email protected]' or your correct email?