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Support of Richard O'Dwyer – TVShack

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by steelballs, Mar 14, 2012.

  1. steelballs

    steelballs BANNED BANNED

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    Richard O'Dwyer a 23yr old University student has been served an Extradition Warrant by the US on charges of copyright infringement relating to his web site which provided links to enable its users to access films on the internet. At all times he was in the UK, his servers were not in the US and his domain names were not in the US.

    The alleged conduct took place entirely in the UK. Richard is asking for a fair trial in the UK, where the alleged offences took place and where he will be able to defend himself.

    This guy needs all the help he can get it is FREE to sign the petition

    http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/stop-extradition-fair-uk-trial-for-richard-o-dwyer.html

    News Clip
    http://www.zdnet.co.uk/blogs/communication-breakdown-10000030/may-signs-extradition-order-for-tvshack-student-10025622/

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  2. Nigel Farage

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    I have this idea for a hard-drive. Encase the HD in a secondary, sealed container which contains a small CO2 cartridge and some type of acid. In the event that the enclosure is tampered with, or if the enclosure fails to get a specific "unlock" code, or if any form of electronic access is attemted and fails, the CO2 cartridge blows acid throughout the interior of the Hard Drive, destroying any hope of recovering data from that hard drive and ruining any kind of forensic evidence on it.

    Second, I think we (collectively) need to start adopting a particular belief system, with the express intent of implementing that belief in the event we are put on a jury trying a software piracy, copyright protection act case, etc... which is that ANY electronic "evidence" can be forged, and that there is NO WAY to say for certain who exactly did what based off of electronic reords, and make certain that, no matter what lies the government i.e. "the prosecution" says, under no circumstances will a specifically trained and enlightened person use electronic evidence toi convict anyone for any reason, if they are on a jury and that is what is presented.

    This whole notion of electronic "evidence" is complete bullshit. They are attempting to make a lie the truth, in order to scare people into paying more money for videos, music, games, software, etc... than the market is willing to bear. When people would rather break the law than pay what you demand for your shit, your shit is overpriced, and 100,000 paid government agents, and repressive laws and rigged court-systems isn't going to change that fact.
     
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  3. ouchthathurts

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    signed - fucking shocking how this is being treated - shows how out of touch the justice system is when it comes to technology - oh and dont get me started on the extradition treaty......:zx11pisse
     
  4. Roparadise

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    You guys are thinking of this wrong, in a way its good he is being charged. This case may set a precedent that just having a .com or .net or .org doesn't make you in the jurisdiction of the U.S. government,even though they are u.s. owned domains
     
  5. Fuggz

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    "on charges of copyright infringement relating to his web site which provided links to enable its users to access films on the internet."

    But Google does this millions of times each day. Are they going to get reprimanded as well?
     
  6. meathead1234

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    How is it good? It's fucking retarded. He should never have been extradited. I don't care if it sets a precedent going forward (assuming he wins).

    The UK is just bending over because the Government are a bunch of spineless twats.

    So some kid sets up a site to try and make some money while at uni. It happens to be illegal in a country that he doesn't live in, so he runs it in countries where it is legal. Seems smart enough.

    He happens to be successful with the site and makes some cash for himself. He should be applauded for doing something productive, rather than joining the ranks of the unemployed in the UK looking for £20k a year 9-5 jobs.

    I'm from the UK and I think it's a disgrace. IMO worst case scenario they should have just made him close the site down and stop doing what he's doing.
     
  7. ShadeDream

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    I don't know what to say to be honest. I mean, I could of went down a similar route back when I first joined BHW in 2008 and found out about content lockers but I didn't. I'm just trying to say that he should have been a lot more careful. I'm pretty sure that he knows/knew what copyright is and thought he could get away, well he was wrong. You shouldn't really get into things that you don't know how to handle. Though I can definitely agree with the fact that this is a complete disgrace.
     
  8. krzysiekz

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    Fuck the US & fuck the FBI.
     
  9. JimmyWong

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    I totally agree. After the original domain got shut down, he laughed in the feds face when he came back with a .cc domain within days. I imagine that didn't help.

    Best of luck for him. I hope he wins the case, and in a worse case scenario gets a lenient sentence such as a fine. He's too young to have his life ruined by a few years in an American jail cell.
     
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  10. MrSmith

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    Taliban should start extraditing westerners for talking crap about the Qu'ran. Isn't that the same?

    I wish Richard the best of luck. He's a scapegoat for an ancient business model set forth by the RIAA and MPAA. The same guys who have pulled strings for this extradition to happen.

    The US does NOT own .com, .org, .net ...Verisign which unfortunately happens to be on US soil runs these TLDs. Place verisign in Europe and what's going to happen? The only reason why Verisign can let ICE/DOJ & Us Govt officials take domains is that they will get bitchslapped if they refuse.

    Somehow any treaties with the US doesn't work vice versa. The US have other "rules" for who they want to extradite. Special rules, for a special place...Let's exclude US from the rest of the world and let them sail in their own fuckin pond. I reckon that will be better for the rest of the world.

    ...On another note. Can't wait for China or Russia to be the next super power. People will start giving US the middlefinger and get away with it.

    The land of the free? Not really.


    Linking to content in the UK is legal. He did adhere to DMCA takedown notices. All he did was make a copy of "alluc".
     
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  11. ShadeDream

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    I know it is legal but he didn't take it seriously by the looks of it. He was very open about it and that's why he got caught. He thought that just because he's in the UK they can't do anything to him. They'd probably leave him if he was only linking to UK shows/films but he linked to everything possible. Just because it is legal to do something in one country that doesn't mean another country can't do anything to you if you are infringing their rules. All of the cash that he's made will now probably end up being spent on lawyer fee's etc. Even if he does win he'll have to look into other ventures as doing the same thing once again will not be a good idea. You don't play with fire if you don't want to burn yourself.
     
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    Good ole Dick O'Dwyer.

    Well, apparently extradition has been sought since May 2011, almost a year. The extradition is still being appealed. At least the US is giving a reason as to why they want to kidnap him as opposed to just following the MO of swooping in.

    I wonder: If his site wasn't named TVShack( or TVs-Hack. get it?) if there wouldn't be so much of an issue. Plenty of sites exist that either straight up stream live TV or movies or link to sites that stream/upload. But their urls are much less straight up in your face. Authorities are thinking "they hack tvs, and are proud! this cannot stand. to ze choppas!"

    Theresa May is the lovely lady that approved of his extradition.

    This case has been sort of going on since 2010, actually. They're just desperately trying to set precedence with this case. And lol, if it sticks, it'll be just like m3ga|_|pl0ad, cause we all know that file sharing and hosting sites don't exist anymore.

    If you have peerblock and go to tvshack.cc, the site where it was apparently moved to, you'll notice a very cute IP blocked coming from an ICE seized server. lmao. They're all so desperate for a few more $'s to come in any way they can.

    I bet someone snitched the site out. The gubment is pretty much the only one hiring, and snitching is a lucrative business. 1950s flashback.
     
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  13. Roparadise

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    You guys are so fucking paranoid,lol. If he would have just gone to the U.S.,pleaded guilty in exchange for doing a PSA on why Piracy is wrong. He would be out on probation and free to make more money.