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Sudden Desperation = Call to action

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by greyhatdude, Jan 9, 2009.

  1. greyhatdude

    greyhatdude Regular Member

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    A not so theoretical question:
    Assuming you're desperate and broke, if you suddenly lost virtually your paycheck and needed to make $$$ begin rolling in as quickly as possible - and you could only use the tools available from BHW (no xrumer, etc) as well as warez what would you do to make money online as quickly as possible, with no cash outlay?

    I'm thinking CS on a massive scale (every affiliate program and adult affiliate program possible) as well as cranking out ebooks through paydotcom (though thats time consuming), PPI seems to require a seedbox, which is not financially possible, while autoblogging is not lucrative and fast enough. Cash Gifting costs money. Starting an HYIP takes time.

    I'm looking for a well laid out, delayed plan. Or ten.
     
  2. hayama

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    I would say ewhoring would be one of the quickest ways to get money asap. This idea was from someone who posted an ebook on here, I forget who. If you know who you are chime in lol. Basically you set up a sales site for an ebook a chick would want (like how to be awesome in bed or something). Download a free ebook somewhere pertaining to the topic and set up the payment information to go directly to your account (pp, gco). Then just find guys on CL/classified ads and ultimately ask them to buy you the book. Bam instant money in your account lol.
     
  3. greyhatdude

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    Yeah, I've been trying to avoid that, but I guess it's a (legal) option I should consider. Anyone else? I've been thinking about a lot of things - it's interesting how morals, ethics and rules go out the window when you're talking about putting food on the table and keeping a roof over your head. It makes me wonder about our criminal "justice" system in the USA and how little it actually takes to push ordinary people into considering breaking the law. If the financial system collapses or there is some other natural catastrophe, I don't think it would take long for us to devolve into total anarchy.
     
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    Theoretically if I lost my job and had no IM experience and needed instant money, I would get a job in the service industry. Jobs there are fairly easy to get and will keep your family fed (even if it is just a little food).

    In the above scenario, if I had also been a BHW member for several months, I would also be kicking myself in the ass for not trying one or two of the dozens of methods that were mentioned in similar posts to this one. Some people come out and say "how do i make $X.XX per day" while others get clever and create stories that mask the underlying question.

    The bottom line is that if you don't do your job or there is no work left for you to do in your job, you don't get paid. The same thing goes for IM except you are basically paying your own salary. So either you suck it up and work to make money or you go hungry.

    That is a key line in the thread. If you are desperate and you need money to survive, you stop using lines like that. It is fine if people have morals etc but if you have no food to eat and you are picky about how you get the food, you are going to be very hungry. If you don't help yourself, nobody will help you.

    Bottom line. pick something and do it...and you will make money
     
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    2 words

    Food Stamps ;)
     
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    the fastest way to make money is to offer your services. Just figure out what your good at, and offer it as a service. If you really want do arbitrage. Offer someone elses services at a more expensive price somewhere else than where you bought it and keep the difference. That money gets paid to you immedietly and often before you complete the service for a buyer. Not only that but if you offer your services to people on BHW, DP, WF, things along those lines, you will be reaching near 100,000 members people who might be interested.
     
  7. Yukinari84

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    It always surprises me to see posts like this. "I need money right now, but I won't do this or that..."

    I understand that people have things that they don't want to do. But if you have things you won't do, then you can't expect to get money right away.
     
  8. darklegion

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    Desperation calls for action yet you do not want to take action.

    I am sorry but there is not other help we can give you unless you help yourself first by dropping the excuse of "morals". There is a fine line between making money and scamming/fraud. The suggestions that were mentioned make money.
     
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    Some good points there. I've always thought that Morals were relative and ethics are a matter of convenience, but this has settled it for me... criminals are not people you should look down upon or dismiss. My screen-name says I am a greyhatter, but I've always leaned closer to being a whitehat than a black, and I think this is changing. I need to find out more about what is legal vs illegal before I decide what to do. I do think that this is a temporary situation so I have to at least stay clean enough to keep my ass out of jail while I work this out. Time is also a constraint - one can only do so much, and I am looking for a fast payday, hopefully within 7 days.

    Ewhoring with datinggold is a possibility, but pay would be deferred for 2 weeks (thats how often they pay) and that won't work. I've PM'd justmeron and cyberdilemma about that in the past and currently, so I can play that card if needed - I already know how.

    Paydotcom pays instantly via paypal, but finding out what offers to run with is a pain in the ass - the search function on their website is the epitome of FAIL.

    Also, I do still have options. I can get another couple of autoblogs polished as whitehat sites and put them up for sale on sitepoint, DP, or SEDO by tomorrow night. I can also convert another gift-related domain that I have into a BANS storefront as a front for CS, find a cheap cash-gifting program for it, or just flip it. Another domain is a generic corporate-related domain name that I could use to get into affiliate programs or to sell business related products. Last of all is my ebook domain, which I have been sitting on for awhile. I haven't finished the ebook, but I might want to crank out a cheapo WSO and forget about the high-dollar, high-quality product I was aiming for. I might also just skip the WSO and try getting paydotcom affiliates to push it. I can also create simple logos and sell them. I'm trying to avoid spending what little money I have left, so I am going to use what domains I already have before getting into anything else.

    Last question. I'd be gambling with my money: Do people pay for SEnuke services? If I were to pay for that service, could I farm out my automated bookmarking services or is that a dead end?
     
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    I've not had to do it, but I would agree that services would be the way to go. That way you can get some loot in your Paypal account quickly. There are countless services you could offer that could help a brother out.
     
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    You're right, there can be a fine line between scamming/fraud and making money but your answer tom my question is wrong on many levels. Just because you don't have anything else to offer doesn't mean there aren't other options. I've already listed a few in my last post. I didn't say I didn't want to take action, and I didn't say that ewhoring is fraud. Is ewhoring scamming? Maybe, but I'd say its more like hustling...not fraud, not quite. I did say I'd rather not do it. Ewhoring has become the usual answer to similar questions like this that are posted here all the time. Questions like this are also bound to come up more and more over the next year or two as the economy worsens, so maybe an FAQ should be posted. But I think there has to be another method besides ewhoring.
     
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    I am not trying to corrupt you or anything but when you are desperate for cash and need it within 7 days and you are talking about paying a $50 - $100 a month subscription fee to Senuke when you can get it here for free, there is something wrong. And if your morals are too strong to use cracked software, do it manually. The question is, who will do what it takes to survive in life and in this business?

    As Jerry Seinfeld said:

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    F*ck that! There are dozens of posts like yours so why should anyone take the time to write out a FAQ for anyone that is too lazy to look for the answers on their own? If people are too lazy to look for the answer, and too lazy to do any of the methods they find, then why should anyone take the time to do the FAQ?
     
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    Thanks BUT... and now I admit that I may be wrong... but I think that you - and many others -are mistaking your answer for my question. Just because Ewhoring is an obvious answer, that does not necessarily mean it is the only answer. I've read all about it. I GET it, the option is there, I'll try it if I think it's necessary and have been in touch with people who make good money doing it. Now I'd like to know if there are other options which pay quickly.

    An easy one is senuke- does anybody else sell SEnuke services? I can pay for the service and start quickly. Does any other automated service like that sell well?
     
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    I'm not saying that E-whoring is the only way to go. Yes, there are many other methods that can make you some money fast. The problem is your mindset.

    If you really are desperate and need to make money, you have to be ready to do anything. You may not like it, but if you're really that desperate, than you don't have time to be scouring around and wondering if this method works or that method works...

    again e-whoring isn't the only way, but it is a proven method that works. So instead of sitting around looking for something that you want to do, just take a method, make it work, get your money, and then get back to other parts of making money online.

    And next time, have some backup emergency money makers on stand-by so that if you ever get into this situation again, you will be prepared.
     
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    Dude, who pissed in your cornflakes? The cracked copies do not work well according to some people. I'm willing to spend $100/month if it means I will make more than that $100 back in a week, so I think it is a legitimate question. As for the FAQ, you answered your own question. Because there are dozens of questions like mine... because there is an obvious need... there should be an FAQ... Or a sticky... Or something besides a bunch of pissed off people answering what are apparently the same questions being asked over and over again.
     
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    Definitely. I'll see what I can do this weekend and will probably start ewhoring monday.
     
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    Sorry, I agree with jagged on this one, but maybe he was a little harsh in the way he said it...
    There is way more than enough money making methods, both short and long term, inside of the BHW.

    I even put up a thread about how to make $100/day easy for free by flipping PLR article packs.

    People need to actually take the time to read and search through the forum before asking questions. Sure it may take 1/2hr or so to go through the "Money Making" thread, but you'll find so many methods in here it's unbelievable. Yet, no one seems to take the time to actually read through it themselves. They just say, "Tell me how to make money now" without even checking researching.
     
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    Jagged is cool and straight-up, I like his answers. But I think I'm right. I'll see if I can put together something like an FAQ or a compilation that is worthy of being made a sticky in a week or two, once I've got this straightened out. FYI: My mistake was planning for the long term only, and counting on always having a steady income from my day job to finance my IM pursuits. I don't want to get too detailed about my personal issues, but I'll have this straightened out within two weeks. My family has my back, I have food in the fridge, my rent is paid up, and I have enough gas to get to and from work for the next two weeks. If this had happened two weeks ago, before I paid this months bills, I'd be ewhoring right now instead of fishing for ideas. Still, this has been a big eye opener. I'm going to unload my non-performing domains and diversify ASAP. Multiple Streams of Income seems like a really good idea right now.
     
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    I'm glad it was an eye opener for you. I used to be the same way.
    At first, I thought the money from my day job and what I was making from my online efforts was gonna see me through.

    Unfortunately, I made some bad mistakes, and lost a lot of money and hope. But in the end, I made the choice to not give up, and I'm glad that I did.

    the point that I'm trying to make is that if you ever feel like being gun-ho about making money online, that's great. Just make sure you don't miss the important points of planning, budgeting, and backup plans.
     
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    Actually I understand what the others are saying. It seems that every week there's at least two people who expect money instantly. They waited to the last second and now don't know what to do.

    I also see what your situation may be. If you're like many others you kept thinking that something would work. You've probably been steadily trying to make something work and hoping something would work at the last minute but it didn't. Now, instead of months or weeks to make money you have a few hours. Options are minimum. What do you do?

    First, take a moment to study the other postings and responses others have given in other threads. The questions have all been asked and the answers have been given.

    Second, if there were such a thing as "instant cash" for the amount you may need -- everyone would already be doing it. Most people here are looking for something a little more long term.

    Third, there are quite a few things you could do to get paid within the next two to three days. Try JV'ing with someone. You'd be amazed at how many pros simply don't have time to market themselves or don't know how or just don't want to. They would rather be doing whatever they do.

    You don't even have to look very far. There's pros on BHW who are programmers, crackers, specialize in traffic, have software, do graphics, create websites, etc... They're all looking for more business.

    There's also a lot of people on BHW who are looking for programmers, crackers, those specializing in traffic, specific software, graphics, or someone to create a website for them.

    All you have to do is match them up. You get paid a fee for producing sales. You find one person and hook them up with another.

    Ex: I'm currently look for a programmer to clone a LAME (type of programming) script for me. If you could find someone they may pay you a percentage of the fee for finding business for them. They pay you as soon as you provide a paying client.

    Much of my passive income is earned this way. I have graphic designers, specialist in press releases, authors, consultants, videographers, web builders, etc... all who love what they do but they hate marketing their services. All they want to do is what they do. They need someone else to market their services for them and they're happy to pay the person for doing their marketing.

    You can do much the same thing. You don't need to know the "how to" do something. You just need to know how to find the people who know how. Sort of like when you were in school. They weren't too worried if you knew the answer as much as they wanted to know if you knew how to find the answer.

    Hope this helps...

    Good luck in finding something...
     
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