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[Successful Journey] Scaling Amazon Affiliate from $1000/m to $10k

Discussion in 'My Journey Discussions' started by Bloooop, Sep 29, 2019.

  1. seodestruction

    seodestruction Regular Member

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    Where do you get your expired domains from? And how long was the journey im slowly reading through all comments but my days are riddled with work ahaha
     
  2. Bloooop

    Bloooop Regular Member

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    Update

    So currently I have 6 projects to work on. Here's the breakdown for the ones that I did work on. From now on I'll be just posting each project on giving an update on each one as I work.

    Scaling to $10k Project


    Project 1 - First Expired Domain

    Site Code: 《GEE》 Expired Domain
    Domain Age: 5 Years
    Site Structure Progress: 「80%」
    Content Progress: 「0/400」 Articles
    Link Building Progress: 「216/300」 Ref Domains
    Traffic Diversity: 「0/4」 Traffic Sources
    Budget:$1200」of $3500 Spent
    ROI: 「----」

    Site Update:

    I spent the day working on this site. I completely built the basic foundation which is (About US, Terms and Conditions, Affiliate Disclosure, Privacy Policy, Contact Us). I also did all the basic framework set up.

    I'm using Astra to build it with Thrive Architect as the theme builder.


    Project 2 - The second site

    Site Code:《OBF》 Brand New Domain
    Domain Age: 6 Months
    Site Structure Progress: 「100%」 Completed
    Content Progress: 「9/300」 Articles
    Link Building Progress: 「1/200」 Ref Domains
    Traffic Diversity: 「0/4」 Traffic Sources
    Budget:$225」of $3000 Spent
    ROI: 「----」

    Site Update:

    The site started getting about 1 visit a day or every other day. And I still haven't gotten any articles for it that I had intended to get. However, the site structure is no 100% complete and we only need articles now.

    Project 4

    Site Code: 《PJS》
    Domain Age: 1 Year
    Site Structure Progress: 「100%」Completed
    Content Progress: 「30/400」 Articles
    Link Building Progress: 「150/300」 Ref Domains
    Traffic Diversity: 「1/4」 Traffic Sources
    Budget:$2000」of $3000 Spent
    ROI: 「----」

    Site Update:

    I finally got to buy this pre-established site. It has a few keys ranking but nothing great. Nonetheless, it's ranking and getting 30-60 visits a day. And makes a few bucks a month. I should be able to take this site to $300 a month or more in a few months. So this will help me bring in back some cash flow.

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    These stats are even better than my last domain. So with some tricks I know I should be able to seriously push this site.

    Project 6

    Site Code: 《BTB》Final Expired Domain
    Domain Age: 17 Month
    Site Structure Progress: 10%」Completed
    Content Progress: 0/400」 Articles
    Link Building Progress: 104/300」 Ref Domains
    Traffic Diversity: 0/4」 Traffic Sources
    Budget:$1567」of $3000 Spent
    ROI: 「----」

    Site Update:

    Yesterday I fulfilled one of my long time fantasies of feeling like a rich man. I always wanted to get what I want just because I want it and I did this on Godaddy Auction with this domain. It had crazy competition bidding for it all the way up to $1500 but I bid in the last 5 mins and won it. Here are the stats:

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    It has a few .gov and .edu links and 200+ do follow from high authority sites.

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    Let's just hope it ranks, the domain is for a niche that I really want to get into which I know will make me $10k a month by itself if all goes well. Previously it seems the person that "owned" this domain redirected it but the redirect isn't to a spammy site but to the main authority in the area. No trademarks but it might have gov relation so lets hope all goes well.
     

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  3. Mr.Never

    Mr.Never Junior Member

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    I hope you can take some of your valuable time to read and reply to the comments above as you did before. :smirk:
     
  4. llama77

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    Could you go over your link building strategy and how much your spending

    Thanks!
     
  5. Bloooop

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    Update

    Responding to Replies.

    Woah, I knew I missed a couple of responses but this is a lot.

    Guys I'm sorry, I used to respond immediately whenever I did previous updates as I had far more time. Afterall, I was making passive money and my 9-5 was running smooth. But now things aren't like that. I have to put in more effort into getting things done instead of being on the thread.

    If I spend all my time updating the journey instead of trying my hardest to make it back to $5k - $10k I'll regret it. I'll try to respond when I can but it takes time to write responses. And as you can see I have a lot of projects to work on so expect delays in responses.

    That said... here they are:

    I will make it big if things work as expected or even half as expected. As for links, I have never been invested in using them or purchasing them actively. I'm more of a "great content + Onpage SEO" guy.

    For my previous site I've bought 10 niche edits for about ~$600. That's it. So $60/link if you want to look at it like that.

    My first expired domain was bought from Serpnames.com. My second and third ones were found through SpamZilla. With the right criteria you can find good auction domains, but expect to pay a premium to win them.

    How long was the journey? As in, to get from $1k to $5k? or from $0 to 1K? The latter took about 2 years while from 1k to 5k took about 4 months thanks to the snowball effect and the things I learnt to scale.

    I can, but my time is so precious these days that I have to spend most of it on things that can move the needle. Before, the needle was moving by itself but now I'm spending and not earning so my apologies.

    I'll respond to all comments once I get time, always.

    My current link building strategy is the same as it was and will continue to be probably. That's "No LinkBuilding"

    That's why, i've gotten into expired domains, with strong links so I don't have to actively build any. When I do get into link building though I'll be sure to add it.

    I'll never give up on my dream and passion. I'd do this over any other activity any day.

    I got 2 from Spamzilla and1 from Serpnames. This site has a few decent ones that are brandable - Serp.domains.

    Google, Pixabay, Unsplash, Pexels, and Product Manufactureres.

    I've explained how I select niche and keywords here. That's the same way I did my research when going with these new sites.

    Site 4 《PJS》 was a site I found on Flippa that is now confirmed and in migration to my servers. I decided to go with a pre-established site after talking to one of my friends and that Flippa site fit all the criteria he recommends and mine as well.

    Site 5《BTB》I found it a week ago and added it to my watch list on GoDaddy. It had great metrics and about 60 bids up to the last 10 mins so I knew that my speculation that it's a great domain was right. This domain would've been sold on some marketplace for $2-4k so buying it for $1500+ was a good gain (maybe).

    Content Progress (X/XXX)is the estimated amount of articles I'll need to have for the site to be completed. At that point the site should be making $1k-$10k. Same thing goes for Link Progress.

    The basic foundational pages of a site that's ready for content is to have a Home page, About Us, Privacy, Terms and Conditions, Affiliate Disclosure, and Contact Us page.

    Price per word vary depending on the writer that I'll use for a specific piece. For these sites I'll probably pay a Max of $25/1000 words. I found that some of the more expensive articles and services still need tonnes of editing to get to my standards. So I'd much rather pay a lower price for articles that can be easily edited.

    I was doing everything manually. However, I'm considering a plugin like AAWP but I'm still not sold on it yet.

    Typically, I have a link every 150 - 200 words. Any more than that and you might be over doing it. Also whenever I write a "Money Page" I leave it to rank with just images and the content for about a month or until the page starts getting about 10-40 visits a day. I do this since I don't build links and didn't have a lot of info pages on the site.

    I'm not sure if it helped but it seemed to work as once Google "seemed to trust" the article and started ranking it, even after I added links it maintain rankings and kept going up.

    Also, always keep in mind that Info articles have less commercial intent so less competition in the SERPs. While a Money keyword has a lot more competition on the main keyword and its variants so it will naturally be a little harder to rank. However, one easy way to overcome this is to build either a few more info content and link to the money page or have more money pages linking to that particular piece.

    Yup link building will be a challenge.. But I'm giving expired domains a shot first as that will reduce my need for links. Thanks for following the journey :)

    Feeling better already and back to working hard on getting back to where I was. Do follow along :D
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    Guys please don't mind how long it takes me to respond to the comments. I will always get to them but I'm very short on time with my job and the 6 projects. Responding to these alone took more than 30 mins if I exclude the times my wife needs me to do something or I'm interacting with my family. So be patient.
     
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  6. Mr.Never

    Mr.Never Junior Member

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    Thanks bro, According to what I understand, You will NOT ADD any Affiliate Amazon links in the money page until it is ranked or getting about 10-40 visits per day. Right? Sorry if I misunderstood :)
     
  7. ibnu aqil imron

    ibnu aqil imron Regular Member

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    It motivate me bro...
    I did a journey too... I hope i will follow you to get discipline and get the things done...

    I think focus is really matter..

    But sometimes it's hard af.
     
  8. aristocratic

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    I have been following this since the beginning.
    Thank you for delivering so many insights and valuable information.

    I have a question regarding this:

    Do you create unique Privacy Policy and Terms and Conditions for each site or simply copy-paste the same and don't index it?
     
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    Do you believe in Law of Attraction? I think this is where you practice it. :)
     
  10. MonkeyJohn

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    Hi @Bloooop thanks for keeping this thread updated - great motivation.

    I have a quick question: when you are doing the content mapping for your new sites, how many articles do you have on your "hit list" from your keyword research in the first batch/silo? Is it around 15-30?

    Thanks.
     
  11. Bloooop

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    Update

    This whole SEO + Affiliate marketing game is a huge learning experience. With every success and step forward there is a new challenge waiting. And with these new challenges comes inevitable mistakes.

    I almost wrote that it was possible to make it without making these mistakes but it seems impossible. Even though information is readily available online, there's just no way you can consume everything. And if you do consume everything, you'll be stuck in analysis paralysis and never make progress.

    Just a few hours ago I felt regret in making a mistake that I shouldn't have...

    Buying a website without checking trademarks.

    For anyone reading this, DON"T DO IT.

    It's always better to avoid possible trademark issues but since I've already signed and sent the money to purchase the website/business, I'll just have to risk it and hope I make an ROI.

    Another important thing, I'm coming to realize in business is to be patient and double think before making a decision. Plus, it's always good to have external eyes look at your plans or at least offer suggestions.

    Scaling to $10k Project

    Project 1 - First Expired Domain

    Site Code: 《GEE》 Expired Domain
    Domain Age: 5 Years
    Site Structure Progress: 「80%」
    Content Progress: 「0/400」 Articles
    Link Building Progress: 「216/300」 Ref Domains
    Traffic Diversity: 「0/4」 Traffic Sources
    Budget:$1200」of $3500 Spent
    ROI: 「----」

    Site Update:

    I spent the day planning the site structure and identifying a good portion of keywords to target. So far I have 103 article topics already silo'd in my mind map for this project. I'll add about 50 more tomorrow then refine it by removing topics where the product isnt available any more. Matching traffic volume to cost per item. And lastly, difficulty to rank.

    Today, I also found out after doing more research that this niche is very competitive. But I've spot a few opportunities that I might be able to exploit.

    Project 4

    Site Code: 《PJS》Pre-Established Site Bought from Flippa
    Domain Age: 2 Years
    Site Structure Progress: 「100%」Completed
    Content Progress: 「30/400」 Articles
    Link Building Progress: 「150/300」 Ref Domains
    Traffic Diversity: 「1/4」 Traffic Sources
    Budget:$2000」of $3000 Spent
    ROI: 「----」

    Site Update

    This is the site where I made the mistake of not checking for trademarks. This site has a close word mark match that might become an issue. However, the previous owner claims to have never got in any issues. So, lets hope I can hold it long enough to atleast get a positive ROI.

    The trademark I found is say "Pre-establish" and the domain name is "Pre-Established"

    Very stupid mistake on my part!

    That's too close, and because I was impatient and ready to jump head first I made the mistake of buying it before doing all my due diligence. I don't know what will happen in the future.

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    Lastly, I'm considering grabbing a final expired domain name. The domain is very powerful and clean based on my checks and spamzilla TF/CF 22, DR 49, DA 45 with 520+ RDs. The bidding for this domain is already quite crazy. So I'm expecting it'll cost close to 2k to get it.

    I'm willing to make mistakes and learn as I go. Even though I'd rather not make mistakes, I like the domain, it's brandable and the niche is definitely much easier than my first expired domain's niche, plus the domain is powerful enough to compete with the very top sites in the niche.

    I'll definitely do some more checks first though before I decide. Replies to comments will be in a few hours when I wake up.

    “Life is either a daring adventure or nothing at all.”
    ― Helen Keller
     
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  12. KidHotel

    KidHotel Junior Member

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    Could you expand a little on how/where you find expired domains and what you do to capitalize on their strength?
     
  13. gowiththeflow

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    Thanks for your inspiration, this is one of the thread keeps my journey moving forward. Hope you reach your $10K goal real soon.
    I'm on the way to achieve $1k monthly this year, hopefully in next 3 or 4 months as my current earning is $300 :D
     
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    Following. Thanks:D:D
     
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    Following, this is great
     
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    Very interesting journey, hope you will reach your goal!
     
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    Very interesting about the trademark issue. My biggest website has a similar name to a magazine in Australia.

    E.g.: My domain is "footballstreamdaily.com" and they are "footballstream.com". However, I could not find Football Stream in United States Patent and Trademark Office. Am I safe now?
     
  18. szymon034

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    Hey,

    first of all - congrats, not on your success but on the hard work you made (and still making) and dedication. Success is just natural consequence of work that you put every single day.
    For the last few days I've read this jurney whenever I had time and for sure that's one of the best I saw on this website. It was crazy to see to how many things I could relate not only in terms of your IM jurney but also your daily work or family situation. Also this topic is a really gold mine when it comes to knowledge (if you are smart enough to see it and use it) and now I have 4 pages document with your advices and my comments to it. So thank you for updating it and also for sharing your experiance and tips.

    I have 4 questions:

    1. When I saw the post where you decided to sell the website my brain immediately made big "NOOO". Next pages I was just hoping that you changed your mind and it won't be sold till I catch up with last posts. Overall all you sold it and many congrats for you for this. For sure I understand your concerns and why you did it. If I was you probably sooner or later (most likely later) would do the same. The only question here is why you didn't wait till your second website will start making money? I mean - you had success with your first website, but till now only this one (I mean with SEO&Amazon, I know that you also made other things in the past). Wouldn't be safer to see first if you are able to the same with another one? You started the second website around 5 months ago, so theoretically it shouldn't take long to see first profits on it. Of course that was your decision and I understand and respect that. The only question is really why you didn't wait to see if you second website start to make some money.

    2. My next question is why you didn't use your skills and knowledge that you have from your daily job (I mean mainly ads) to promote your website? As I understand you only promote it through organic search. With your traffic it wouldn't be smart to also do some remarketing ads on google and facebook? To reach the people again who already visited your website? They are converting much better then normal ads.

    3. I already have few years experience with IM (affilite, ads, seo etc.) but I never used it for amazon so I have question here:
    With Amazon policy that you have to make 3 sales in 180 days after joining the program it's obvious that you should start your website first, then make content and then after you see some traffic join Amazon. But how I can choose the right product if I can't see it before I join the program? Or all the products that I can see in amazon are also available for the affiliate program?

    Is it working this way that you are only selecting your category that your website will be about (sport for ex.), then start making content to niche related to potential products that you would like to promote in the future?
    So first articles on the website should be rather big and informative before you start making some money posts where you promote the products? And when you join the program the best is to edit those big post that already have some traffic to link them to money post. Am I right? :) Sorry for this long and maybe confused question. The point is that for ex. in Clickbank is really easy to start/focus because you already see all the products and you can promote them on the website. And on Amazon because of their policy first you need to built website and then connect selected products to it.

    4. Are there any good topic on BHW about the Amazon Affiliate (how to start, etc.). As I mentioned I have experience with affiliate (5 years of earning on Clickbank and some other projects but I really want to know as much as I can before I fully involve on this one). If you knows some topics here or on some other websites that help you to start with Amazon at the beginning - I would be very grateful if you share them with me :)


    Sorry for this long question but they were unavoidable after reading 39 pages of this jurney :) And again, thanks for this topic and wish you all the best with the current projects!
     
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  19. Bloooop

    Bloooop Regular Member

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    Yep. That's the principle I've been following.

    It's hard to stay focused and get things done. I won't lie, I waste a whole lot of time and regret it everytime I do. But building a business takes time so don't sweat it. Set targets, or try to do a few tasks on the business every day. It'll compound and start snowballing eventually.

    I use privacy policy and terms and condition generator. I've never worried about indexing or not indexing it. I just build it and move on to adding content to the site.

    I believe in Faith and God :). It's similar to "Law of attraction" as that's where it came from.

    All in all, so far I've gotten everything I've asked for and believed I would get. That aside, it took work on my part to get it though but I know a lot of people working harder and not making any progress.

    I try to make each silo about 15 - 30 articles to achieve topical relevance.

    For domains from sellers, I tend to only buy from Serpnames as he vets the domains thoroughly and even gives you a plan that you can follow to build a money site on it.

    For domains found through Spamzilla, I look for TF/CF 10+, DR 10+ with at least 100 RDs, High DA/PA, mostly branded anchors and a high link to homepage ratio. So if the domain has 200 RDs I would like to see 150+ going to the home page with branded anchors of the domain name.

    I also look at the web archive history to see if the site has remained the same throughout its lifetime. I then look for 301 redirects and see where they pointed to. I also look at outgoing links from the domain. Plus checking for spam links. There might be more things experienced domain-hunters do but I'll work with this for now and see if I succeed or fail.

    That's great, typically the site will snowball itself to $500+ but with the right steps you could definitely make it to $1k by the end of the year since you are already almost halfway.

    Check the Australian trademarks to see if there is one for it in AU. But since there is none in the US and the site is hosted there and doing business in the US you would most likely be fine. Although they could register the domain even now and then try to mess with you. But at that point, you already had the domain before they came to do a trademark.

    You most likely will be fine.

    Hey, thanks for your best wishes.

    1) The main reason I sold the website is for Financial Security. While it was making money each month, I was still broke and was living on edge as anything could've happened with the site or to me financially.

    With the site sold, I have a good cushion to easily rebuild or sustain myself and my family for a year. Now considering that it took exactly 1 year to make it to the point that I did with $0 dollars spent and writing roughly 6 articles a month I can easily replicate that work with a portion of the funds I'm sitting on. Furthermore, I don't believe that I made a successful site by mistake. Neither do I think that it's a "one-hit wonder" thing as I know quite a few people building niche sites to success over and over.

    If I had to compete with the site I built, I could easily beat it with the things I know now. So it's very easy to do the same in any niche. At the end of it, I took the calculated risk of cashing out instead of putting faith in Google not wrecking the site.

    2) I do Facebook ads for my 9-5 and know how tricky it is to optimize for conversions and the main goal for creating an affiliate site is to create passive income. With ads, I'd likely blow a large portion of the money with little return.

    You also have to consider that organic traffic is highly targetted with higher purchase intent. With remarketing, you are reaching people outside of the time when they have purchasing intent so conversions will inevitably be lower. Not to mention that for the most part of the site it wasn't earning that much money to spend testing ads. I'd have gotten a better ROI adding more content and backlinks or diversifying the traffic sources.

    On the other hand, I did consider doing this so I installed a Facebook tracking pixel on the site, but the cost to return won't be worth it. And considering that I'm not maintaining the customers but instead of sending them to either amazon or commission junction I'd end up competing with both Amazon and Commission Junctions remarketing ads which will push my cost up.

    And they have the money to spend/risk while I didn't.

    3)Most (about 98%) of all the products on amazon are a part of their affiliate program. You aren't really looking at the product before doing a review, instead, you should be looking at keywords in the niche that you've decided on to vet if it is easy to rank and then look at the product if the commission will be worth the effort.

    Clickbank is similar to Amazon in some ways, as some products you need to be able to give them the traffic of your site or guarantee a certain amount of sales before they accept you. If not you'd lose the ability to promote it.

    What I do is focus on picking a niche, do some keyword research and look for traffic opportunities ( Easy keywords that I can rank based on my domains metrics or on-page strategies) then I add those to a mind map for content planning. After that, I start building out content and adding it to the site while optimizing the content. Let it sit and then add links later on. If the article is an info article then I won't need to add links to it but I'd eventually link it to one of my money articles or use it as a supporting article somewhere. I really don't think about differentiating between Info articles or Money articles. I just look for traffic as that's what really matters.

    In essence, you need to do in-depth research before doing amazon affiliates. So that will involve an ahrefs or semrush subscription knowledge of SERP metrics and ranking factors and then time to do the planning.

    4) Journeys are your best bet to learn. You can read the first-hand experience of everyone. There are definitely guides here and even on other sites but I love journeys as I can read and see progress and know who to follow.
     
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  20. yooray

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    I am really finding difficult setting up the website for amazon affiliate? Can you please refer any guidance to set up from scratch? From whcih themes to choose and what are the effective plugins? I hope you understand.

    Thanks!