Hello, just want to share what I discovered and maybe other people can share their experience too. 2 years I was optimizing web sites and trying to make money, worked a little bit as freelancer. I remember those days when I have to launch web site and do all that hard work because I was white guy and don't want to do black stuff. I was alone all the time from the beginning so I have to write articles, do SEO ON and OFF site, manage web sites and many more. Sometimes I asked myself why I am working so hard without making a lot of money. Watched a lot of well known video training sessions and spend a lot of time learning and implementing. One day after I bought scrapebox and sick submitter I realized what a powerful tools they are. This is how I found this forum and started to learn a lot about black side. For me it was clear that if you want to earn money as affiliate or in adsence or even with your own product you have to have a lot of money, have own team and work hard. And if you are alone and without big bank it is very hard to do. So I started to use cloacking software launched web site in one day and few days later traffic came in. I love black hat and I also noticed that a lot of successful info products creators don't show the traffic source or real methods how they make money. Or like in popular video training courses you learn a lot but in order to implement everything you have to have more than 24 hours every day or hire someone. I think it is impossible to make first million sitting alone at computer and using white hat only. This is my personal opinion from my life that I am living in. I am so happy to find black hat forum and learn from the best people. People that don't hide and share their true stories how they make money without hiding and teaching others to do this in the hard way.