"Stupid" Newbie-Threats & my suggestion to prevent those

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  1. blackheader

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  2. bryanon

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    Not a bad suggestion at all, but unfortunately it's got two sides to it:

    While it's true that such limitation would reduce the spam and the 'noob questions' a great deal, it would also make the forum far less appealing to new members, essentially making a bunch of them ditch the forum in the first place. Now one could argue that 'let them go - we don't need such people in here anyway', but if you look at the bigger picture, quite a few of those 'noobs' will one day become valuable members / contributors of the community and it may not be very wise to make the forum less appealing to them.

    All in all, the idea is worth 10 points and the reasoning behind it is brilliant, but I seriously doubt that it will ever be implemented - there's just too many aspects to it that could make it backfire.
     
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    It's called a thread.
     
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    Thats why I made my Guide for New Members. If I see someone that obviously doen't get the idea of how to lurk in the forum for a bit to learn what kind of posts and threads are acceptable, I just post that thread and depending on their post, maybe a few other links as well.
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    You really don't want to put any forced limitations on new members though, because not all new members are noobs.

    Some people may have years of online experience and marketing experience, they know how to act in a forum and might have valuable information to share. We don't want to limit their abilities just because they only signed up recently. Those new members we want to have, and the sooner they can contribute the better.

    There are also many people that are new online, but are still smart enough to know how to lurk on the forum for a while to just read and learn the information here and the types of posts and threads that are acceptable. We don't need to limit their abilities to post either. They may have valid questions that might help everyone, and will probably understand it is best to ask them in existing threads without starting a new thread everytime.

    There are just a few people that don't think about anything, they see there are successful people on here and think they should just immediately start asking questions. Those are the peopl we want to limit, but the best way to deal with it, without limiting the other new members is just to point out they've made a mistake whenever it happens. Most of them learn fairly quickly, or they do go away, and those people are the ones that it doesn't matter about. Report a couple threads they start and the mods will get involved, if they still don't learn they get a ban.
     
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    My 2 cents:

    IMHO Dumb / Newb questions are always a problem in forums.

    Having said that, compared to other forums I frequent, this one currently does a pretty good job in "returning fire" to new posters that are advertising / out of line / asking *very* basic questions

    This "return fire" does a few things:
    1) it scares the dumb ones away
    2) it makes people do their research on topics and questions before posting. For every newb that gets flamed, there's probably another 10-20 that read it and say "maybe I should check google or wikipedia first..."
    3) it allows new posters who have something useful to say speak up earlier
    5) actively reminds the forum of what the rules / regs / policies are
     
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    "d" at the end of a word is pronounced as a "t" in German. :)
     
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    Come on now mate - English isn't everybody's mother tongue and a simple spelling error most definitely isn't worth a nasty remark, especially if the person making the error clearly displays in their profile that they're from a non-English-speaking country.
     
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    Hey @ all.. thanks for all your helpful feedback to my suggestion!

    GreyWolf suggested that I could add an article to his "Guide for new Members!", so I wrote a little post for New-Members, that might be helpful for them, before posting articles/threads.

    I hope that in future at least some posts can be avoided by this! Here is the link:

    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...back/188859-guide-new-members-start-here.html
     
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