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Stucked at #19

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by dogilim, Mar 30, 2017.

  1. dogilim

    dogilim Junior Member

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    Hello guys, my keyword is a product category i have only 1 competitor which he is ranking for #5 (he was #1) top 10 sites are full shopping sites which no page backlinks. It should be easy to rank. My anchor ratio is %41 http://asd.com %12 main keyword which im trying to rank, %6 brand %6 second keyword, other links. I have 20-30 pbn linking to my site with good diversity links. It should be ranked atleast in first page. My competitor also ranking with pbns. I have invested like 500$ for seo. This makes me sick. My onpage seo is good. I also did contextual links. I read all articles about stucking still couldnt do it. Im open for advices. Sorry for my english.
     
  2. darulez

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    do youtube.
    that's what I do when a site pisses me off for 2 months.

    But I guess in your case, you have just had the patience for 3 days as usual.
     
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    This is so untrue, look at them and see why they are ranking. Maybe they're too strong to outrank quickly?
     
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  4. dogilim

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    You mean putting my link into video description ?
     
  5. dogilim

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    They ranking because they are authority. How my competitor ranking with only few pbns?
     
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    1. Your competitor may have other backlinks - use different tracking tools if possible.
    2. His content might be better as a whole
    3. You might have to wait a bit
     
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    "I have invested like 500$ for seo."

    How long ago did you start your off page ?

    Was this spent with just 1 seo supplier ? If so, ask him for an update and an idea what is happening.

    Then see what he says and see if it makes sense.

    If need be post his reply here so we can give comments on his approach.
     
  8. dogilim

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    I started 1 month ago, 2 supplier one is for diversity one is pbn. I think he is stil sending links. I have also private pbns i tested my pbn with other keyword it went 25 to 11 in 2 days. But for this site nothing changing.
     
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    I once got sucked at 19, I still remember it like it was yesterday.
     
  10. darulez

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    YT is my 50% - 70% income generator. 20% client. websitse/ seo sometimes up to 30%.
    so, If I get pissed cause a site wont move from page 2, I just create some great reviews for YT, and enjoy top #1 spots.
    5 minute video with condensed information. perfect for my audience.

    when I am sick of YT cause my throat hurts of talking for hours, I return to building links and cleanup up my sites .
     
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  11. Nargil

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    - Bad anchors (12% exact, unless you are in supper spammy niche, is terrible overkill)
    - More content
    - Bad onsite
    - More backlinks
    - More time
     
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    1 month simply is too short. Especially if you're still getting new links. Maybe you need just more time and more backlinks. Also make sure that you did not overoptimize your anchors, because 12% main keyword is a lot.

    Edit: Damn, @Nargil has faster fingers than I have.
     
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  13. dogilim

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    i dont think problem is anchor. I have 5 times better backlinks than my competitor.
     
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    Google does not give a single fuck about the backlinks quality if you fuck with your anchors. 12% is simply not natural, no matter if the links are from spammed to death GSA sites or from DA 20 PBN sites.
     
  15. dogilim

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    I added 3k more content in 2 days
    did my onpage better
    i have lot better backlinks than my competitor
    idk im too bored of waiting
     
  16. Nargil

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    3K content is nothing. Add 30K and then you might be onto something.
    What is "better" onpage? Proper structure, intelinking, densities?
    Doesn't matter that you have better backlinks, when your anchor ratio is bottlenecking you. And yes, your anchor ratio is terrible.
    And if you are bored of waiting, then I can assure you, that you won't be doing any SEO nor IM within a year.

    Then don't ask questions if you know better yourself and if you are not willing to listen.
     
  17. dogilim

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    okay im going to fix my anchor ratio, what should my main keyword ratio ?
     
  18. Nargil

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    Check the anchor ratio of top 3 and go with that. My rule of thumb is:

    Brand 70%
    URL 20%
    LSI 5%
    Generic 3%
    Exact and Partial 2%

    But that's subjective. Stick with it at your own risk.
     
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  19. dogilim

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    I fixed my anchor ratio. Now my kw at #25 can anybody recommend something?
     
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