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Struggling to grow gaming related channel.

Discussion in 'YouTube' started by c00lspot, Jun 14, 2016.

  1. c00lspot

    c00lspot Newbie

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    Hi,

    I'm an actual gaming YouTuber with my full real name known, so I don't want to get any negative 'doxing' type bs by getting caught using any method..

    I'm doing this for 1,5 Years now and I'm struggling to gain an audience, I'm stuck at about 4,8k Subs (abou 3,5k real ones) and about 500-1k real views from my subs per video.. Videos get released almost every second day.. I do aggressive marketing for my videos in related FB Groups with over 10-20k Members and gained my existing audience with this method.. but that does not satisfy me anymore, hence I'm seeing others in the same niche who post sh*t videos with no editing skills or whatsoever, getting bigger and bigger whilst I'm even using an greenscreen, detailled editing and still struggle hard..

    I'm already buying HR views (tested several service from BHW) for the most videos but not that much, because I don't want it to get suspicious..

    Would be glad if anyone could help me out to grow my channel!
     
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  2. jjgg89

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    Hello friend, and fellow youtuber.
    I am in same situation where other ppl are getting more views and subs but their content isn't much better or better at all.
    Let's see if we can find something that works pm me
     
  3. homer222

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    if you still need a partner, hit me up as I have a solid method for this. thanks
     
  4. Dawgtown

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    Keep producing the quality content. Your traffic sources, however, seem to be your biggest limitation. FB groups are great but you need to have your videos in front of (A) a larger audience and/or (B) a more targeted audience. Are you also making use of Twitch and Steam for growing your audience? Also, Snapchat and Instagram (shoutouts) are BIG in the gaming niche.
     
  5. jjgg89

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    Can you share with us your method?
     
  6. DanielOnYouTube

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    What kind of content are you posting? Is it popular? Is it TO popular which makes it competitive to rank your videos in the search engine? How is your SEO?
     
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    If you wanna send me your channel URL I can check it out and give you my opinion.
     
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    I am not into YT, but I think your number of sub are pretty low for year and a half. Why don't pick, let's say 3 approaches of your video types. For example one with your camera on and you talk in the videos, one without video of yourself and voice only, and the last one make some sort of compilation with music and without voice of yourself. Then start promoting the videos on the same channels with your current promotional strats. This way you will do some sort of split testing, and you will get better perspective what is wrong..
     
  9. c00lspot

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    Hi,

    I was on the road so I couldn't reply to you, but thanks to all who are trying to help me out..

    Will send you details..

    We're streaming our Pack Openings on Twitch once a week.. IG, FB & Twitter are used as well, posting pictures almost daily, in order to inform the people what's going on in the Game right now...

    Our videos are in German, the main 2 Games we're playing are FIFA & CoD.. SEO Wise I try to use good titles, descriptions and tags.. also managed to rank some videos very high for several search keywords.. but that didn't help to grow the channel :(

    Will send you a PM

    Well we kinda did that.. Posted a Black Ops 3 Edit just with sick kills and velocity synced bg music to the bullets, no talking whatsoever.. it's popularity was meh though.. the other videos are mixed, when I publish a vid to give out infos (like tutorials, glitches etc.) I don't use a facecam.. If I play myself, I use a facecam.. but they get all the same amount of views if they don't rank high...

    Edit: Forgot to mention, that we did several giveaways (we gave away a new PS4 console @ 4000 subs) and still doing them, we have a monthly cash giveaway... who else does things like this on such a low sub count?
     
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    Without seeing your channel, I have to say what makes good quality clickable videos: Thumbnails are 80% important and 20% having an interesting/intriguing title.

    My thumbnails consist of 3 things...

    1) Having a mascot, avatar, symbol or just a picture of yourself off to the side of the thumbnail so that people can easily identify and use it in EVERY thumbnail. That way if they keep seeing this icon over and over and over suggested for them they are more likely to click on it and see what your channel is all about.
    2) A clear high quality image of the game you're going to review or talk about. I wouldn't necessarily show a screenshot of the game, maybe more like the logo of the game or the box art or something people can easily identify even if they haven't played the game before.
    3) Some text on the thumbnail doesn't hurt. If there is room, putting a small snippet that gives them an idea of what is going on in the video. Maybe like, "I hate this game..." or "Best game of the YEAR!" something small like that.
    Optional) Sex sells, especially in the youtube space. I wouldn't do anything too risque, but something like a girl with a tattoo of the name of the game or something, lol. I don't know, you can be as creative as you want.
     
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    Hey OP you need to create videos like this one not just a normal gameplay.

     
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  12. c00lspot

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    WTF did I just watch :D
     
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    That's the trouble with the gaming niche. It's easily the most difficult niche to get into and grow. There's just so much competition that it's really just not worth it (in my opinion, of course).

    I've seen some people start 2 channels (gaming & vlogs) and after a year they had like 2-3k subs on the gaming channel and over 100k on the vlog channel with putting the same effort into both.

    The gaming niche is just too saturated.
     
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    It's all about thinking outside the box. A lot of people want to become famous youtube gamers, but all they do in their videos is just a silent gameplay without commentary and shit, no edits ( you get the idea ... boring sh*t ). Other people start creating boring gameplay episodes like "Minecraft ep.1 building a home" "Minecraft ep .2 building a farm" and so on ( saturated sh*t ).
    Check out for example: SoCloseToToast https://www.youtube.com/user/SoCloseToToast Black Ops videos (a million other people are doing the same) BUT there is a twist: he beatboxes like crazy :D
    Check out this channel : TheSheepBroadcast https://www.youtube.com/user/TheSheepBroadcast Look at his subs (152 000) and look at the view count of his recent videos -> Disaster ... why so ? Now go to his most popular videos -> People subscribed to his channel, because they like his Minecraft Machinima animations and not some boring gameplay.

    You need to ask yourself, why should people subscribe to my channel and watch my videos ? What am I doing different than the other youtube gamers ? What is the unique thing about my videos ?
     
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    Out of box thinking will be the key role in attracting the audiences. Create a short video which is about your gaming niche and make it goes viral. Thumbnail is also the special role in getting impressions by the visitors, so make a good thumbnail for your videos to get more visitors.
     
  16. c00lspot

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    May I PM you my YT Channel?
     
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    ok
     
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    Exactly as Neon has stated...

    ...and what SEO Pearl has mentioned as well...

    On Youtube, you are an entertainer. I don't care if the channel is about gaming, product reviews, or how to make a bazillion dollars with bitcoins. You need to think like an entertainer and pay close attention to your audience. If you're providing valuable in-game walkthroughs, so are thousands of other gamers. If you can separate yourself from the mainstream a little and create viral content, you can score really big audiences and gain subscribers that can't wait for your next video release. Becoming a must-watch channel is not easy so best of luck.

    I'm curious about how you are planning to monetize your content and if you have any plans to target English speaking audiences or do you plan to just stick to the German gaming audience?
     
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    I showed my YT Channel & Social Media accounts to Neon and he told me that I produce good content and that I should keep it up.. that was motivating a little bit to continue what I do.. hence I really love producing and editing videos, but when the outcome is so damn bad and seeing other similar channels grow much faster depresses me..

    My written English is quite good but I don't feel that confident at all to talk English in public videos, my accent is kinda bad so I will stick on German only for now..

    We were partnered with Curse (UnionForGamers) on YT but that ended now because I live in Turkey since 3 years and PayPal had to shut down their service here, so they cancelled the contract.. we have a partnership with a FIFA Coin seller as well, getting paid per lead there..

    I don't want to use clickbait stuff (misleading titles, dumb thumbnails with senseless arrows and circles) and fool my core subscribers.. this is also an issue in the German YT Scene (hell, there are videos titled from female youtubers like 'How to get me in bed', 'How to lick me the right way' or males doing challenges with extremely sexist titles like 'Which females youtubers a$$ is this, whose pu$$y is this' etc.) which I talked about on a video where my subs backed my opinion about this topic..
     
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    Hence I can't edit my post anymore, I have to post a new reply.. is this VidIQ Boost feature any good? Worth the money?