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Strategic Guide to Building a Private Blog Network From Expired Domains

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by allaboutdomains, Mar 30, 2014.

  1. allaboutdomains

    allaboutdomains Junior Member

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    I received lots of interest in my the expired domains internship (scroll down to the post on 3-16-14) I offered and since I have limited space, I thought I would write a few words on strategy.

    One of the questions I ask for those who want to participate in the internship is how many expired domains you want to find. The answer has varied from 5 to 100+.

    So, I am going to make a few suggestions on the best strategy for finding expired domains based upon your needs.

    1. If you are new to SEO and have 1 money site then you only need about 10 good expired domains. What is good? Clean domains with DA 20+ are worthwhile to build out. Since you only need 10, I would recommend using drop lists and sites like expireddomains if you can afford it.

    The challenge to using drop lists is that you have to comb through a bunch of spammy, garbage domains and this takes a lot of time. So, there is another option recently launched by Spencer from NichePursuits called DomainJawa. They do all of the spam checking for you so this step is eliminated. They offer fixed pricing but overall the expired domains have similar pricing to the auctions.

    If you cannot afford it, I would wait until you can. If you are not patient, you can try the Scrapebox/Xenu method but it will be very frustrating as this method has been widely used and doesn't seem to yield too many clean expired domains today. The only caveat here is if you know how to build a good seed list (I may do a tutorial on this in another post) you may find 5 after a few months but most of your time will be spent spam checking junk.

    2. If you have more money sites and need 10-30 sites in your PBN, then the best option again are drop lists. You should expect to pay a minimum of $50 per expired domain and many will be $100+ for something decent. Of course, this is very pricey but if you have existing money sites making money, then it is well worth the investment.

    I would not even start with the Scrapebox/ Xenu method as it will take you likely forever to find 30 expired domains worth purchasing. I can say this from experience as I finally built my own crawler over the last year specifically to find expired domains because this method was so frustrating. (and because I know a bunch of you are going to ask - yes I find hundreds of clean domains each week and I have opened up the crawler to a limited group of people interning with me. If there is enough interest, I may open it up to people beyond the interns.)

    3. If you need 30 or more expired domains because you have a bunch of money sites or seo clients, then use a service. These services range from just finding the expired domains to setting up a full private blog network with content and hosting on different IP's. You can find these services pretty easily on BHW. If you are looking just to find a supplier to sell you expired domains, your cost should be reduced to $30-70 per domain. (again - because I know you will ask, I sometimes do this if the order is large enough).

    Anyway, I hope this information provides a strategic road map for you depending on where you are in your seo career.
     
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  2. nikiobicata

    nikiobicata Regular Member

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    Occupation:
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    Hey Op, Is this you website?

    Domain Name: DOMAINJAWA.COM
    Registrar: NAMESILO, LLC
    Whois Server: whois.namesilo.com
    Referral URL: http://www.namesilo.com
    Name Server: NS1.WEBFACTION.COM
    Name Server: NS2.WEBFACTION.COM
    Status: clientDeleteProhibited
    Status: clientRenewProhibited
    Status: clientTransferProhibited
    Status: clientUpdateProhibited
    Updated Date: 27-feb-2014
    Creation Date: 27-feb-2014
    Expiration Date: 27-feb-2015

    You know i'm tired to read thread like this every day?! Why you just don't find different ways to promote your website?
     
  3. radiant13

    radiant13 Power Member

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    Thanks, op, for this very timely info. I had just now started looking into the Xenu method and will abandon that per your advice. I've seen someone complain that after building and using his own PBN he was still unable to obtain top ranking. I'm even questioning whether it's even worth the investment in time and money to building my own PBN if the results are still a toss up. Do you think Goog is catching on to this method and starting to devalue the power from some of these expired domains and the PBN's that their building? After all, the details of this methodology is all over the internet now.
     
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  4. allaboutdomains

    allaboutdomains Junior Member

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    No, DomainJawa is not my website. It is Spencer's from NichePursuits (as I mentioned above). Also notice I mentioned ExpiredDomains and this is not my website either.
     
  5. allaboutdomains

    allaboutdomains Junior Member

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    If you leave a footprint, Google will eventually find it. Check other posts on BHW as there has been lots written on the best way to set up a PBN.
     
  6. radiant13

    radiant13 Power Member

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    Was more concerned with whether the link juice from expires is still as good now.
     
  7. allaboutdomains

    allaboutdomains Junior Member

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    I don't think the link juice from expired domains has decreased but let's see what others have to say on this.
     
  8. radiant13

    radiant13 Power Member

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    Op, look at the comment from this guy using 15 PR sites in his network and still can't rank, it's the last comment left on the 25th. I'm assuming he did everything correctly but hard to say really.
     
  9. allaboutdomains

    allaboutdomains Junior Member

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    Yes, it is hard to say what the issue is and while he is not going after the keyword "bank", his keyword may be pretty competitive for a 15 site PBN. That really is not a very large PBN and who knows what the average DA/PA is. His on-page SEO could also be hurting him but you would hope within 9 months he would be able to figure things out.