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Stop Sending Rude Hate PM's To People From India

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by Erik Creed, Nov 11, 2010.

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  1. Erik Creed

    Erik Creed BANNED BANNED Premium Member

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    Hi all,

    It has come to my attention through some freelancers I got on my yahoo messenger that some members of BHW are sending racist PM's to people from India such as:
    are u indian?
    i dont trust indian
    and so on...

    Also understand that people are getting these PM's without any reason, they don't even know the PM sender!

    I'm not from India, but I find it offensive and rude.

    So whoever is sending those PM's stop it at once!

    It doesn't matter where you're from, we are all here to learn, work together and to make more money.

    I myself mostly buy services from people with all kinds of different ethnicity.
    I know from exprience it's not where a person is from, it's more who a person is on a PERSONAL LEVEL.

    So any suggestions as to what can be done against such hate PM's?
     
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  2. krigarwa

    krigarwa Registered Member

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    Nothing much man. Haters will always be haters I guess.
     
  3. Erik Creed

    Erik Creed BANNED BANNED Premium Member

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    I mean mod-wise perhaps moderators could ban those users or give them a warning.
     
  4. Sugirl

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    lol it's no hate or racist, Just I don't deal with indians either cos You simply can trust maybe 1 out of 10 of them!
     
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  5. Erik Creed

    Erik Creed BANNED BANNED Premium Member

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    Thats generalizing and having prejudice Look them up! :laser:
     
  6. ericsson

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    Erik..

    I´m not a Racist first of all.
    I have been working with indians, yes..
    But, i wouldn´t say most of them got the knowledge to complete the tasks you ask them for. That´s the sad story. Some ar very polite, and working like maniacs, but these are very hard to find, and always have work to do.

    I know a Indian dude in University where i live, and they live very different from us who lives here, don´t know why man. But that´s how it is.

    Some are trusthful, some are lazy, some don´t know english.
    But it´s hard to decide if they are the right person for the tasks i want them to do..

    But Erik, we´re not Racist just because we call some indian "i don´t trust indians" etc etc.. :)
     
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  7. hamd01

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    As racist as it sounds I have to agree. Over the past few months I've tried hiring someone from India on more than 20 occasions. On at least 15 of those occasions they have either tried to change the payment terms after paying deposit, have totally messed me around or have promised things they simply were not capable of delivering.
     
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  8. Erik Creed

    Erik Creed BANNED BANNED Premium Member

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    Everyone has the right to decide with whom they want to do business with.

    It's the sending PM's part that made me angry.

    Sure some people lack in english or are lazy etc. But you can find them in all countries.

    I just feel it's wrong to send hate PM's to random people from India simply because they are from India.

    Everyone knows that if you need to outsource some programming jobs it's people from India you should bee looking for. They do great work and they charge much less which is a bonus.

    These PM's affect the recievers mood in a very negative way, what if the person that got the PM has a responsibility to provide for a family?

    I'm just putting myself in their shoes and it makes me angry.
     
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  9. pisco

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    I'm not sure on how it goes in this forum, but in digitalpoint forum Sugirl's statement is most of the times valid regarding content creating, I've bought a lot of content there and the quality is just mind-blowing (not), even when i say i only want native english writers, some still manage to squeeze through.

    On other services i had no issues, but this is becoming sorta like the Nigerian scammers scene.
     
  10. TwistedMarketing

    TwistedMarketing Regular Member

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    I am an Indian and let me tell you, BHW wont be BHW without us. There are so many of us around, from regular members to Junior VIPs to MODS.
     
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  11. Ramsweb

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    I am Indian and I just wanted to say that this is a huge country. There are all kinds of people here. There are really good ones and there are scumbags as well.

    I think we lose out in the numbers game. Look at this way, let us say that 20% of an average population are people who are bad apples. When you want to outsource work, you will probably run into 500 Indians wanting to do the work for you whereas you will probably come across 50 people of other nationalities who want to do the same work.

    The possibility of outsourcing your work to a bad service provider in India is 20% of 500 = 100 bad apples.
    The possibility of outsourcing your work to a bad service provider with other nationalities = 20%of 100 = 20.

    As I said earlier, there is a much greater chance of you finding a bad apple that happens to be in India. I think that is why some people have developed an aversion to Indians.

    But either way, sending hate pms is just not cool.
     
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  12. GBlogger

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    Well.. lazy people and cheaters are everywhere in this world. You might say indians are having higher ratio.

    But think about this. When ever you outsource some work, at least 75% of them are done by indians. So, you are not having opportunity to judge other people...

    You cant generalize character of whole nation by bunch of people.

    All the people here are saying "I am not racist but I dont like indians" .. Listen to yourself fools... That is called racism...
     
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  13. extremephp

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    Well, I am an Indian as Well!

    But Being an Indian Doesnt Mean that I have to Sell Things Cheap, Or Do things Cheap!!

    If Faking My Country Towards another give me some good thing, I would never care about!

    Well, I do have a stand, and all people should, and No Bad will ever happen :)

    Being an Indian is no way related to Scamming!!

    ~ExP~
     
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    yeah i totally agree, a lot of the ppl in the bh world are from India, and just because of the high numbers you are going to come across some shady ppl for sure.
     
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  15. alhemicar_hn

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    Well germanic people made fascism and 2 world wars which destroyed most of the Europe.I have an idea: dont freelance indians to work for dollar a day lets Obama conquer the India and bring them to USA to work for free just like african slaves built the nation.
     
  16. deviatus

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    People from India have most of the best services on BHW.

    Accounts, proxies, backlinks.... they've helped make me thousands and I'm grateful.
     
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    this is why we do it:
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultimate_attribution_error
    summary:
    let's say you're not indian.
    if an indian person person scams you, you're more likely to conclude that all indians are scammers.
    if an indian person does a good job, you're more likely to conclude that only that single indian is reliable.

    it's horribly flawed logic, but we're all innately wired to think this way.
    the best thing we can do is notice when it happens and make a conscious effort to see the situation as it actually is.

    :)
     
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  18. bugsyy

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    I always deal with indians and they are reliable, I guess the only country you should be carefull is Nigeria ;)
     
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  19. Dellius

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    People have the write to hire or refuse to hire anyone for whatever reason they see fit.

    Certainly, such messages are not hateful and I wouldn't say they are racist either as there is no such thing as "Indian Race".

    Think of it - it's a standard business practice. Payment processors and hosting companies also refuse to work with people from certain locations and it's not because they hate their skin color, it's because they find the population of these countries generally untrustworthy and they can't know in advance what kind of person they are dealing with.

    Before jumping on me with a ton of arguments how this is racist, stop and think for a second about the last email you received from this charming Nigerian Bank CEO who got stuck with a couple of hundred million and needs your help. Did you think "hey he may be honest this time" or did you think "another Nigerian scammer" and moved on with your day ?

    You must understand that people want protection, especially when they are about to do business with someone thousands of miles away in a third world country with poor reputation. Yes, honest people hate it when the reputation of their country gets in the way, but after all that's how life works.
     
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    Like was stated, a few bad apples carry a lot of weight and perception is 9/10 of the law. Asking to avoid is one thing but i'll agree that bashing for no reason is jacked up!
     
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