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STOP Doing These Things! (Pt 1) Top 8 Reasons WHY Your Accounts & PVA's Die a Early Death!

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  1. turbopugsleylx

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    STOP Doing These Things! Top 8 Reasons WHY Your Accounts and PVA's Die a Cruel and Untimely Death! (Pt. 1)



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    Due to the size and scope of what I want to go into with this thread (and the attention span of you guys seeing a HUGE post) I will be breaking this into 3 parts (3 Now, Then another 3, then the last 2 points)

    In the many years we have been in the IM field I have seen and observed LITERALLY hundreds of mistakes made with accounts and phone verified accounts by our customers. ALL preventable had advice been heeded and a little common sense used.

    Our Experience Applies to Most EVERY Account Type
    (See at the bottom if you want to know if this thread applies to your particular account type.)


    Know this though: These principles are UNIVERSAL and will apply to MOST Account Types!

    Let's get into it:



    1. Not Using Good Quality or a Sufficient # of Proxies:


    Ahhh Proxies...the boon of many a Internet Marketer's accounts. This is divided into two parts: Bad Proxies and Insufficient # of Proxies.


    Having high quality proxies that you are logging into your accounts with is the foundational backbone of protecting your accounts. It doesn't make your accounts invincible so they can be abused at your disposal, but what it does do is it protects your accounts from being connected together by the spam algorithm of the website that you're logging into. Should this happen they will either shut your account down or ask you for reverification (essentially the same thing). All accounts when they are created should be created with unique US IP addresses/Proxies (if it's a US based website) and likewise when you use your accounts we recommend Unique US Ip Addresses (preferably Private Proxies)


    Having a sufficient number of proxies is equally as important. Having an insufficient number of proxies will cause your accounts to be connected together and shut down for using the same IP address too often. Using more than one account per proxy essentially creates a chain between those two accounts(or more) connecting them together. If this is caught, not just one account will get shut down...BOTH will be shut down. That is why it it important to test the particular account type you are using to see how many accounts you can use per proxy before they get shut down. The starting place of this testing shouldALWAYS be 1 acct per proxy. You can increase this as you discover where the threshold lies. (More on proper proxy usage and methodology later).





    2. Not Clearing Your Cookies and Flash Cookies


    Like Proxies, cookies are just what they sound like....cookie crumbs that connect you and your computer to the account you are using. These are stored on your computer just by simply going to a website with your browser or using a browser based software that visits a website. If you do not clear these cookie crumbs in between each account login you are again connecting these accounts together, making it very easy for that websites spam algorithin to see that you are one user using 2 or 3 or 10 accounts. Solution? Clear your cookies and flash cookies using the better privacy addon for your browser (this may be Firefox only, but don't quote me) or by using CCleaner free software to delete cookies and flash cookies.




    3. Using Poorly Coded or Planned Software or Bots.

    EVERYBODY (especially if they are trying to sell you the software. :) will say their software is SAFE. BUT in my many years experience this isn't true. Here's Why: Alot of software and bots are NOTORIOUS for leaving trails behind that are easy to track, connect and get your accounts shut down. One way is because these softwares use browsers in them and they don't program the software/bot to clear the cookies or flash cookies of the browser being used within the software.


    One of the other LESS PONDERED reasons is because the developer didn't think things through when they designed the software. These website's spam algorithm are very intricate and complex. They aren't dumb. For the MOST part algorithms of websites are looking for unnatural usage trends in accounts. AKA things that look like spam. And software/bot developers who don't think things through design their programs that act in unnatural ways...IE they don't act the way a normal user would act.. (MUCH more on this later)


    Another factor that spells danger for software and bots when it comes to your accounts is that software and bots sometimes aren't well thought out. Their actions are mapped out logically and efficiently but our browsing is illogical and inefficient. When we browse we don't take Step 1, Step 2, Step 3, Step 4, Step 5 in each and every page we visit. We instead click a page, browse some...click another page...browse some....stare into space pondering the mating habits of Ewoks....oh yeah then click to another page. But most software's by their very nature are programmed to take certain actions in a certain order, time after time after time....all of which can be eventually pinpointed and targeted causing your accounts to get shut down. Also realize alot of social networks are predominantly MOBILE networks, and desktop actions(on a software or bot) may be under extra scrutiny moreso than mobile actions. (Hopefully this article will come across the desk of a few software developers who apply it!)

    Another factor in software that spells potential disaster for your accounts is the fact that websites purposefully and frequently update their sites and spam algorithms. And if you purchase a piece of software that is understaffed, underexperienced or time poor they will not be able to keep up with the frequent demand of updating their software constantly as things change. Leaving you holding the bag and your accounts in jeopardy.

    Before you send hate mail....not all software is like this. BUT be very careful if you value your accounts (and money) because badly programmed software will eat a hole in your pocket and time that is lost in buying or creating new accounts all the time. Now also you know what to think about before purchasing a software that needs accounts to function....(Hopefully this thread will come across the desk of a few software developers who apply it to make better software and less headaches!)


    Thats all for this thread...parting is such sweet sorrow! (HACK!) Stay tuned for Part 2...I will type it up as soon as time permits...be prepared to take this account preservation methodology and philosophy even deeper in future threads.

    Till Next Time
    Turbo



    These Principles Are Based Upon Our Direct Experience with these Account Types:


    Gmail Phone Verified Accounts (Single and Double Verified Accounts
    Youtube Phone Verified Accounts (Single and Double Verified Accounts)
    Yahoo Accounts (Phone verified and Regular Yahoo Accounts)
    Hotmail Accounts (Phone verified and Regular Hotmail Accounts)
    Twitter Accounts (Phone verified and Regular Twitter Accounts)
    Instagram Phone Verified Accounts
    Pinterest Accounts
    Tumblr Accounts
    Vine Accounts
    Soundcloud Accounts
    Vimeo Accounts
    Dailymotion Accounts



    As always....if you have any questions or comments shoot them below!
     
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    Good post,Thanks! :)
     
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    Your welcome buddy! Part 2 is coming soon!
     
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    Thanks for the post, this is good info for keeping CLAD PVAs alive.
     
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    I actually got started learening these principles from CL years and years ago when CL marketing was very popular and mainstream
     
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    This post has nothing to do with flashing your sig, right? 0_o
     
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    Yes the best option is to have one proxy per account, but you can use one proxy per 2 or eventualy 3 and still be safe.

    You forgot to add that the best accounts are the ones we make our self.
    Why?

    As lot of providers( I would say all of them ) that provide accounts are automating the process of creating accounts and I don't believe they are changing proxies for each accounts.

    This creates big problems down the road, why?

    So from start the accounts you buy are tied by other 1000 of accounts that are spamming the shit out of the respective networks, just because they are made with the same proxy/IP.

    And don't wonder if one day you see all of your accounts star getting banned and you are not even spamming and your bot settings are not even extreme.
     
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    Funny coincidence isn't it? Name someone more qualified though....only the providers or the people who have THOROUGHLY tested and studied accts and their spam algos would know the info I am sharing with you. I have about 6 years in the accounts niche....been at it for a LONG time and seen just about EVERYTHING.
     
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    Did you see the part where I said "That is why it it important to test the particular account type you are using to see how many accounts you can use per proxy before they get shut down. The starting place of this testing shouldALWAYS be 1 acct per proxy. You can increase this as you discover where the threshold lies. (More on proper proxy usage and methodology later). "



    Good input...let me dig deeper with what you said...the best accounts are not the ones you make yourself....the best accounts are THE ONES MADE MANUALLY BY HAND with one IP per acct/one acct per IP using unique US non sequential IP addresses...

    It doesn't matter whether you make them or someone else makes them if the above is followed.

    Your preaching to the preacher though! Alot do do this...but they don't stick around very long on BHW as a provider....

    I can't speak for other providers cause never used them...but you get what you pay for...if you expect to pay rock bottom dollar you are cheapening the quality of IP addresses and phone numbers used to make accts and verify them...cause that is EXACTLY where that extra loss in profit is gonna be taken in the creation process to accomodate clients super cheap expectations. The good providers on her charge a specific price for a reason.....if you come and try to negotiate you are shooting yourself in the foot cause the way that cheaper providers "stretch" their dollars is in IP addresses and phone numbers.....if you pay higher dollar for accounts you can get ones not only manually made by hand but also your not putting the provider in a position to cheapen his process or accts by wanting a rock bottom deal.....so as I said...you really do get what you pay for....

    If you can do it yourself and do it 100% manually then go for it....but making accts via software is thin ice...few keep their software up to date enough and ALMOST ALL of them leave a footprint native to software programming as I explained in the software section. Some acct types this doesn't matter...but ALOT of them footprints like this is a death sentence. Manually by hand is the way to go....whether it be you or a provider doing it....
     
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    No offence, but it isn't really a share when your post if filled with open doors and common knowledge
     
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    This post isn't about my service...Im not the only acct provider on BHW....there are other guys who do good work here too...and trust me it isn't common knowledge....to u it may be...if you only saw the emails I have gotten frequently over the years and what people do with accounts and you'll know why I wanted to make this post. Education on how to use accts properly. And where I see people miss it ALL the time. There is more to come though...this stuff and 1-2 more points are the basics(that most people don't know or follow most of the time)