Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by shailzrocks, Oct 27, 2012.
Whats this mate.....?????
Lol, the thing about Picasso's quote is that is true, good artists copy and great artists steal. And also, Microsoft stoled the ideea for Windows from the first mac so everybody steals ideas nothing new :/
is samsung paying u to spread this propaganda? LOL
This is kind of bullshit, no offense.
It is very rare that a good idea or product is not from the root of another. Nothing is really true innovation. True innovators were the Rockefeller, Carnegie, and Vanderbilt's. Facebook was not an innovation, it was just a better product then myspace and friendster. The i-line of products are just better designed better interface, and smoother movements. It was the product mashup that sold with different unique ideas into one.
Business's now don't innovate, it is just who puts it all together best, with quality, and with support.
Dell didn't innovate a product, they innovated how the product was delivered.
Anyway I better admire Steve jobs for his marketing strategies...............
Stealing Idea is not main thing, using it the right way is.
LOL//////i wonder too let him go create a usefull thread or maybe he can look for a job at TMZ am sure they will love him as he can draw attention!!!
I agree with wasted on this one, it is nothing new that most business people were not aware of though it might come as a shock to consumers but in the end they don't really care. The fan boy fights between apple and windows is always fun to watch .
In terms of front lining new products it is becoming harder and harder simply because our society puts forward not what is best but what is most profitable (Nikola Tesla). Though again with that being said a product can only be profitable if it has some value to customers. In the end our products/innovations is determined by what is easily produced and useful to the whole of society but it is never fully optimised.
In short the products/services we produce is based on how useful it is. If by taking another aspects of other products/services makes it better then that is what will happen.
it's only the prove that apple is smartest...
All they failed because of many factors,for example rimoteca was in 1998 and they failed as they gave up,I don't think that 1998 was the good year as not many people had pc and similar things.
And microsoft with ms tablets,I guess they failed because of marketing as I never heard about this tablet in 2002,the first tablet I heard was iPad I guess...
Apple went beyond stealing, they have had the attitude (believing their own hype) that they own every innovation in home electronics, so they've tried to patent every upcoming notion and accuse their rivals of ripping off their concepts. Look at their recent suit with Samsung, for imitating 'their' slimmer form factor and search functionality for smartphones. Exactly how else was the handheld field supposed to evolve industry wide, except for a leaner phone profile and added functionality? How different can brands of flat screen TVs look, at the end of the day? Apple built their brand superbly, yes, but they didn't build the rest of the computer and smart device industries, so they should get over themselves.
Power of good marketing that was Jobs was good at and that's it, nothing more. And, please, spare the Picasso quotes leaving that to the artistic fields.. lol This is technology: an area in which every other day a new groundbreaking discovery is made.. Something that didn't exist the day before, be it a theory, a new material, a new way to make silicon do crazy shit, a nano particle, an electron spin back or forth and you name it... And not everything is just an "incremental" update like mostly Apple products are. OP is damn right. I was playing files with a creative mp3 player before the ipod, I was composing fuckin emails on a nokia before the iphone, I had taken advantage of a "centralized" appstore for 10 years on debian, gentoo and redhat before this "new apple concept" made it so "cool"... Oh and the only innovative thing they had was running mac os on a PPC architecture that changed when the intel cpus were adopted making apple machines like pc's only with a completely unreasonable bs locking mechanism that I'm sure made more than one discuss about the legitimacy of at FTC... Oh and what about the glorified BSD system mac os x is? Remember that? I did because I used mac 9.22 and several versions before. The alternatives existed even back then, BeOS was truly a jewel of an OS but our revolutionary heroes chose to go with a technology from the 60's: unix. Now Apple products are solid, good looking, hip and have -in general- very good specs that might or might not justify the price, but please, they are as innovative as my grandma. Want to see where innovation is? Look elsewhere, even Microsoft might have made a lot of errors, but they never dreamed of "being ispired" by a BSD kernel or a rendering engine completely made by others hoping to pass a few polished "forks" as groundbreaking products. So good: yes, based on stolen ideas: mostly, original or revolutionary: not a chance.
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