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Stock Market vs IM

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by tygrus, Jun 26, 2010.

  1. tygrus

    tygrus Supreme Member

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    The more and more I continue on with IM, the more I think about 2 things; First, I spend way too much time in front of a PC while real life goes on outside my window, and secondly, I could make a lot more money with way less effort just investing in the stock market. At least my investments would keep their relative value. I have invested in many schemes in IM only to get zero return from them and no residual value.

    In the stock market, it only takes a second to execute a day trade then I can be free all day to do something else. With IM I am stuck in front of my PC most days while life passes me by. I think stock market investing is safer - most times if you get a trade wrong, just wait a little while and you are likely to be back to even in a short time or just hang onto the stock long term.

    Doesn't work that way with IM. Google or Facebook can render your work useless with the flip of a switch. They want to be the only ones that make money, not you. Or you spend a ton of money outsourcing or getting the latest software or method only to find out it doesn't give you the desired result. In the stock market, the method is simple and doesn't change. Invest for whatever period you want with the expectation your investment is worth more at the end.

    I think the odds of making money in the market are probably 50-50 each time you go in where as IM its probably 10-90.
     
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    If you think day trading only involves making a few clicks and than going on with your day you'd be very wrong. You'd still need to spend hours a day researching companys and market trends to try to invest to the best of your abilities.

    At the end of the day IM / Investing in anything comes down to knowledge, and knowledge constantly needs to be updated. Best of luck to you in your search for your ideal job. :)
     
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    ya really gotta find something that you love no matter what niche or interest... if you don't enjoy it, its gonna turn to a grind
     
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    friskel Registered Member

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    Get some websites running on auto-pilot, and you will have nothing to worry about :D
     
  5. Hunwarrior

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    Long story short. You are just sooo wrong at this.

    Are you living in a box?( or really spending too much time at PC ;))
    Bank shares movement last 2 years??? Does it ring any bell? Very high profile cases ;)
     
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    as TermsB said, day trading involves a hell of a lot more than just the act of trading.
     
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    i don't think stock market would be a better idea than IM, unless you know somebody who knows somebody...
    no, really, you need some background to do that and you can have way bigger losses with it, especially in the short run what you may correct in the long run or not, if you don't know what you do, even if you do, imho it's not much better than betting and i mean it, but you've just said: "I could make a lot more money with way less effort just investing in the stock market", then what are you waiting for? it sounds you already have a plan

    and i agree with this 'stuck in front of the PC all day long' thing, i also think about it from time to time, everybody should have to find a healthy balance between IM & real life for themselves, which could be different for every people

    i think it's the best time to change your hat to a darker shade :p inb4 you quit IM and attack the stock market
     
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    voidale Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    IM is great, Just look for automated methods This is what I do I got too much free time ;p
     
  9. kingbrend

    kingbrend Regular Member Premium Member

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    I do both.. but with the Stock Market, it's best to treat it as an investment rather then a source of income.

    I make a living with Internet Marketing, and I use the stock market as a tool to increase my net worth. That's how you should look at it.

    I think you need to figure out what you're doing that takes so much of your time and try something else if it's not worth it. There are thousands of ways to make money online.. and some take more time then others.

    Good luck,
     
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    I do both. I would say markets are more risky and require more attention especially if you are day trading. On the other hand, you could work online for 15 days on a website and then you can get consistent profits for the next couple of months without having to pay much attention.
     
  11. tygrus

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    I think if you invest in real companies and not speculative plays, then things are more steady and predictable - like blue chip companies that pay dividends and have solid growth.

    I have bought shares of many different companies from time to tome and never really felt afraid of my decision. If I lose some, then so be it - its just some money. But with IM, sometimes I lose money trying something and a whole lot of time too.
     
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    I know a guy, who knows a guy who's a brilliant investor with this very, very small local firm in my town. He's one of the smartest people I've ever met.

    I do trade with my own money, but I give most of it to him and for the past 2 years I've seen like 15% return each year for 2 years.

    I started and I gave him $20,000 right before the recession, and initially lost like $5,000 within a month (I was like "wtf, I could of lost that on my own"). WIthin a year her turned that $15,000 back into $23,000 within 6 months, and since (with more of my money), I've got almost $40,000 seeing a %15 return on average.

    I defintley suggest having someone whos been in the field for 20+ years dealing with your money. Make sure there genuine, good, and preferably local people. I thought I could 'invest' by myself and I can't. It's def. harder than it looks.
     
  13. boo blizzi

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    i do both as well...actually i trade options which allows me to put on a spread trade and just sit back for the month...there are strategies that can make u upwards of 15%/month and u will be profitable 10 months outta the year without major rocket science...but if u get hit hard those 2 months or dont have enough capital to roll the trade out till the next month or so...then u can easily lose ur profits and initial capital (happened to me twice which is why im on the sidelines right now...lol).

    You sound like a young guy so try putting things into perspective...IM is like being a business owner - you can leverage a lil money and alot of time to make virtually an unlimited return on your investment that once u get it going and stable...the risk associated with reward gets diminished...Investing in the stock market can/may require a larger initial investment to make a sizable passive income but the risk/reward factor always remains relatively high because the markets fluctuate daily...unless you stay on top of the markets and can hedge your bets with advance strategies and information...you will lose money...the old adage of buy and hold and u will make money no longer applies.

    Your complaints prolly stem from the fact that u are bh'ing and its not sustainable...What you should do is back away from the pc for a couple days and plan a sustainable internet business (targeted list building possibly) and layout whats necessary to get that accomplished...then set aside 1 or 2 days a week to work on just that project (look in the downloads for the action machine)...then once u get enough dough up for risk capital...u then invest in the markets...if you invest anything other than risk capital in a few months you will be back on bhw talking about "So what good methods have you guys been using to make bank while I've been off losing my shirt in the stock market?"
     
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  14. hardinflash

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    I'm pretty sure the only method to make money that doesn't require any work is by inheriting it.