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'Steven' Effectual Marketing & His Fake Alias 'Arthur McDonnell' The Scam Exposed! BEWARE!

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  1. browsing_hosts

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    Hello Laides and Gentlemen,

    Today I will be exposing the cover of a sick twisted person who is hellbent on scamming as many people as he can. He goes by the name of 'Steven', many people will know him by his AIM messenger handle of 'StevenWMills'

    BHW URL: http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/members/61467-atlusphere.html

    Now credit is to be given to his rather clever and well thought out plan because its quite shocking indeed.

    It all started with this email that was sent from his regular newsletter of which I am signed up to from previously trying to get in on his elusive 'CPA JV's'.

    Please examine exibit A.
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    Behold the new amazing partner program where you just cover the initial months advertising payment and can earn 30% cut from the profit made everymonth. (Notice the Anyone written in caps lock to try and lure as many victims as possible)

    Great I have 3 accounts mentioned on that list guess I will reply to the email and let 'Steven' know of my interest. So I email him and soon enough get a reply not from 'Steven' but from some guy called 'Arthur'

    Examine exibit B.
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    Notice the email address 'arthur@effectualmarketing.net' we will be referncing this further into the case.

    OK so everything so far seem's legit enough I mean it all makes sense 'Steven' must be a really busy guy, why not?

    OK so the discussion progresses and I email him back after a few emails back and forth, it comes to my attention that when trying to email this particular email address I get a delivery subsystem failure indicating his email on his end is offline or not working.

    Exibit C.
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    So I wait it out thinking its just some small downtime and soon enough I get an email from 'Arthur' on his what looks to be his personal gmail account.

    Exibit D.
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    Now how could I not spot it here? well I did I can see the email is 'arthurmcd2012@gmail.com' This email is created just this year?! man o man how could I overlook that. Anyway even not spotting that my scammy senses were tingling so I made repeated attempts to contact the so called real 'Steven' I emailed away, phoned his number on his site, AIM IM him and even sent a PM on BHW asking about who Arthur was. Guess what I did not a single fucking response from him.

    I ask 'Arthur' whats up with 'Steven' not responding and this is the response:

    Exibit E.
    Skype Chat Log:
    [17/02/2012 15:34:03] jatinder.singh542: yes
    [17/02/2012 15:34:11] jatinder.singh542: but why can i not get through to him lol
    [17/02/2012 15:34:35] jatinder.singh542: do you have his mobile number
    [17/02/2012 15:34:36] Arthur McDonnell: He's not at home, he's in New York this week so he has been on and off periodically..more off than on which is why I'm helping out :)
    [17/02/2012 15:35:03] jatinder.singh542: why is him aim always on
    [17/02/2012 15:35:10] jatinder.singh542: but he never responds
    [17/02/2012 15:35:12] Arthur McDonnell: He's like me :p Always leaves his PC on
    [17/02/2012 15:35:40] jatinder.singh542: I think its bad practice it gives a false sense of not replying
    [17/02/2012 15:35:46] jatinder.singh542: at least it should be set to away
    [17/02/2012 15:36:11] Arthur McDonnell: Well, typically he responds as soon as he gets back, but because he's on a trip, he hasn't been able to as much...he has ignored me a lot too :p
    [17/02/2012 15:36:34] jatinder.singh542: hope the support wont be like this lol
    [17/02/2012 15:37:03] Arthur McDonnell: Well, as you can see, I'm almost always on...he is too, when not away. Plus you can always reach via e-mail if for some reason we're not, and you will get a response ASAP


    OK this sort of makes sense also until we view the evidence of him being online and then offline and not constantly online like he would be if his PC was always on and he was indeed away.

    This bit you will have to belive me on and I am sure there are others that can vouch for me as him not being contantly online for the past 3 days. Right now the proof is he is currently offline.

    Exibit F.
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    I guess I was desperate like many are and do not heed the warning signs and agreed to send the money which 'Arthur' requested be made to him personal paypal address which is the same as his Gmail address the total cost for the three network accounts first month advertising costs of $450.

    I only sent the money after trying very hard to contact 'Steven' who till now has not even responded that fucking asswipe.

    The only thing I was relying on was his BHW forum status as jr.vip and people being able to vouch for him in the past as to the JV working even if the fucker never responded.

    Exibit G.
    [​IMG]

    Also notice the email address steven.soulvision@gmail.com, Someone on the forum on one his threads was refering to 'Steven' being some soulvision person before hand. I don't know too much about that so I can't talk about that in detail.

    OK so the payment is sent and so are the network account infromation BTW. Now I talk with arthur and ask when should I expect to see traffic this is his direct quote:

    Exibit H.
    Skype Chat Log:
    [17/02/2012 19:20:25] jatinder.singh542: ok
    [17/02/2012 19:20:36] jatinder.singh542: when you reckon they will start
    [17/02/2012 19:21:13] Arthur McDonnell: Since it's Friday, probably Monday morning
    [17/02/2012 19:21:46] jatinder.singh542: kl


    Seems fishy as fuck, I know trust me! So I notice this guy after going offline does not appear to come back online on skype again even till now. Also all weekend I have been continuing my efforts to get in touch with 'Steven' have failed, even when he comes online and goes offline etc.

    I can also say I am trying to contact 'Arthur' himself on his gmail with no luck at all.

    All this fucking ghost magic disapearing act bullshit after this direct quote:

    Exibit I.
    Skype Chat Log:
    [17/02/2012 15:36:34] jatinder.singh542: hope the support wont be like this lol
    [17/02/2012 15:37:03] Arthur McDonnell: Well, as you can see, I'm almost always on...he is too, when not away. Plus you can always reach via e-mail if for some reason we're not, and you will get a response ASAP


    What a load of horse shit!

    By now the illusion is clear and it is quite evident that 'Arthur' is just that sly turd face fucker 'Steven' I was also quite suspicous when I noticed 'Arthur' only had the 1 skype contact who was me and now has a total of 2 contacts, I wonder who the other sad loser is that is being scammed.

    Exibit J.
    [​IMG]


    This rampant scammer needs stopping as fast as possible. I don't care what BS he can come up with he can't explain all this shit that is in front of you. Give me fucking money back ASAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Sorry I forgot to all include one damning piece of evidence which is 'Arthur' saying 'Steven' is not reachable apparently gets and email saying to thank me for joining the JV and remind me that we chatted via AIM along time ago. This was sent after I made 'Arthur' aware that I thought this is all very fishy and I don't trust who he is. Pretty fucking amazing that he sends him that email but aint got the time to respond to all the shit I have been sending him!!!!!

    Please examine:

    [17/02/2012 15:33:18] Arthur McDonnell: Hey Jatin, Steven wanted me to tell you Hello and that he looks forward to working with you, he said he spoke with you a while ago.
    [17/02/2012 15:33:33] jatinder.singh542: when did he
    [17/02/2012 15:33:41] jatinder.singh542: i never spoke to him
    [17/02/2012 15:33:50] Arthur McDonnell: He said you guys spoke months ago but working together, but never did
    [17/02/2012 15:33:59] Arthur McDonnell: Via AIM, I believe he said

    [17/02/2012 15:34:03] jatinder.singh542: yes


    He contacted me the very next day after previous convo where I was suspicous as soon as I came online with this. Pretty amazing how fast he works with communicating to get my money. Then once he has it he becomes a ghost and does not come online again!
     
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  2. TheMatrix

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    Too long to read. Will read tomorrow.

    You might wanna summarize the scam in 3-5 lines.
     
  3. browsing_hosts

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    I will do that but suggest you read the whole thing for all the evidence, otherwise their is really no point.

    Very simply he creates a fake alias to try cover his tracks in his new venture to get you join his JV you need to pay upfront months advertising. The traffic is not started when promised no response given after the money is sent. But for 2 days straight prior to sending the money the Arthur chareter was very prompt in contacting me and everything.

    Then once payment is sent they become fucking ghosts. Traffic is not started by promised time. the whole bloody thing is fishy just view all the evidence and you will see!
     
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  4. sirjocky

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    Hey,

    i did a JV with him last year. I invested 800 $ and it turned to go wrong, as i lost all my 800 $ in this JV!!!

    He provided me with drivers license, bank statement with his address and his signature on our Agreement.

    Let me know if you need anything.
     
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    PM ed to atlusphere, will wait for his reply..
     
  6. Atlusphere

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    As replied to BigBuddy (Copy and paste, so keep in mind this is me talking to BigBuddy)

    Who in the hell do I reply to, you?

    This is NOT me, ask ANY of my current partners, I have quite a few from BHW alone that have worked with me over the years. I have NEVER scammed ANYONE. In fact, I have been scammed SEVERAL times from people here on BHW with our CPA JV's, but there are many here who have worked with me, some for over a year and some even just for a few months who can tell you I am no scammer.

    I've been in New York until last night, very limited access to the internet until last night / this morning.

    Let me start by saying, what I primarily do is run joint ventures with CPA and Domain Parking accounts. I don't know if you're familiar with this sort of thing, but it is possible for accounts to get banned while doing this. When this happens, not only does the person lose their account but I of course lose money; despite this, people still tend to blame me and try and make me look like a bad guy if their account has been lost, even if they were told upfront it was a possibility. Keep this in mind with this baseless accusation against me.

    That being said, I've looked over the thread and have many points to discuss with you.

    First and foremost, while I did in fact send our the email in the first screenshot regarding our new partnership programs, we've only had TWO partners interested in doing it--I'm under the assumption most people don't want to invest up front--but that being said both of those partners have paid their investments and their accounts are being ran without issue.

    Second, I have absolutely no clue who "Arthur" is, and the guy who seems to think that I am him is an idiot. That email (arthur@effectualmarketing.net) does not exist on my hosting, and I can provide proof of that. The only emails on my effectualmarketing.net email are mine, my paypal, a staff, an admin, and a support. This being said, it should have been obvious to him that when he received the first email, and then got an error when he tried to respond, that it was OBVIOUSLY a spoofed email and not one that existed. No offense to Jatin (I've talked to him months ago, though we never worked together) but he should have never even continued the conversation with this guy once the email bounced back. I'm not responsible for someone being scammed by someone with a spoofed email.

    The ONLY contact I've had from Jatin, was today when I woke up to see a flood of IM's from him cussing me out and calling me a scammer. I'm guessing this is why, but with no knowledge of this earlier I of course blocked him because I have never worked with Jatin.

    As for "sirjocky" who responded that he invested $800 in a JV with me, this is true. It was not a CPA JV, but rather I was purchasing a breakthrough script on Facebook that cost $2000 and was looking for a partner on it. Even though I was paid $1200 I offered him 50%, and then went on to build the website etc. myself.

    Within a week or two after our script was bought, Facebook had patched it and it was useless. sirjocky lost $800 and I lost $1200, I can provide proof of this and proof that it was unfortunately a completely failed JV from the start. I feel bad he lost money, but so did I, and unfortunately that's how investments go sometimes, there's nothing I can do to make Facebook unpatch the script.

    I'm willing to work with Jatin, and run his accounts for him without the required investment fee and allow him to keep 50% of what the accounts make (I normally only offer 20%-30%) until he recuperates the amount he was scammed. Keep in mind I am doing this PURELY OUT OF GOOD WILL. I can sympathize with him and do everything I can to help but it's a bit troubling that I am even being considered as being apart of this as it is obvious I am not. I will do anything I can to help you guys figure out who this "Arthur" person is as well as prevent anyone else from getting scammed from them...I will place a disclaimed in my emails as well as on my thread until the whole thing gets figured out.

    As mentioned in the reply, Jatin feel free to in contact with me and I'll do what i can. You were blocked on AIM earlier because I woke up to 20 IM's from you threatening and cussing me out, out of nowhere. I've unblocked you.
     
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  7. blackhatcatz

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    ok i've been with the forum for the longest time and worked with steve on this project and i'll be honest and say i was late in payments because the damn check didn't arrive on time.

    but he waited for it even if it's like 1 month late. so long story short. he is no scam.

    But I can provide insight with what happened above. someone just piggybacked off his site and just used a basic spoofed email to do it.

    just talking about experience.

    you don't pay them if you don't get paid. I don't know how you can get scammed on that.

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    @OP - Did you ever contact atlusphere through pm, before sending money?
     
  9. browsing_hosts

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    WTF atlusphere so you see me cursing you out yeah and also saying PLEASE RESPOND ASAP!!! and you just decide to block me what a load of hot steaming BS!

    who in the right mind just looks at that and says he I have spoken to his guy before he seems like a nice resonable chap. Hang on he is randomly cursing me and asking for ASAP contact. O well fuck him let me just block him?!!?!!

    Also please view the final damning evidence in my post this guy knows for a fact that I contacted you a few months ago and look at my paypal screenshot it is all linked to your fucking accounts.

    DONT FUCKING BS ME AND BIGBUDDY AND EVERY MEMBER OF BHW LIKE ITS ALL COOL.

    AND YES BIGBUDDY I DID PM STEVEN AND YOU HAVE SEEN EVIDENCE THAT HE WAS ONLINE TWICE AFTER IT WAS SENT AND BEFORE THIS SHITLIST THAT HE MUST HAVE VIEWED THAT PM.

    I ASKED SO MANY FUCKING TIMES WHO IS ARTHUR ANY EVERYTHING AND NOW YOU DECIDE TO FUCKING WAKE UP?!!?!?!?

    ARGGGGGGGHHHH THE RAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  10. Atlusphere

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    Jatin, yes, when someone who months ago consistently said he was going to start a partnership with us, then would ignore us when we messaged him, randomly IM's me cussing me out and calling me a scammer...yes, I do block him...why would I want to talk to you?

    This being said, it has been noted on my threads, I do not respond to PMs because I'm very busy and get TONS of PM's per day.

    I have 200 unanswered PMs, and many more (almost 400) sitting there...it's much easier for me to respond via email. I also was not at a PC until late last night. Posted screenshots to validate that.

    I never opened his PM, until now, nor did I ever respond.

    I'm sorry you were scammed Jatin but trying to blame your foolishness (sorry to be harsh) on my is a bit disheartening.

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    @atlusphere - may i know your relation between previous banned member soulvision and you?
     
  12. browsing_hosts

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    When did I consistently say I wanted to do a JV with you please do post proof and show proof where you messeged me and I ignored you.

    Also explain the linked paypal account please.
     
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    I've PMed you, as I'd rather not have these details publicized. If you feel it is for whatever reason necessary to do so, feel free to.
     
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    Give me fucking money back from your PP account also funny enough after this shitlist you 'Steven' contacted me via 'Arthur' with the following:

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    None of my business, but just noticed that yoru PP payment was sent to arthurmcd2012@gmail.com if I read the SS correctly...
     
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    O ALSO HOW DOES ARTHUR KNOW ABOUT THE DETAILS OF OUR CONVERSATION?

    according to you he is just a spoof email hacker that does not exisit on your domain.

    Of course he does not exist because you deleted the email from your domain to carry out the scam in the first place.
     
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    You dont really know much look at the business this account is linked to its is steven effectual marketing. The evidence is clear that can not be made up.
     
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    Atlus, I think this and the linked PayPal accounts should be explained as mentioned multiple times by Browsing_Hosts.

    Secondly, if you don't know who Arthur is, how did he (Arthur) know what was sent to "Steven"?

    I sense the ban hammer coming...
     
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    After going through all the evidence provided by browsing hosts and some more investigation, it seems to be Atlusphere is a previous banned member soulvision.

    Even Atlussphere accepts that he is a previously banned member soulvision through pm, where he got banned previously for some other reason and not for scamming. This incident happened some 2 years back.

    Now coming to the evidence part provided by browsing host. while checking the paypal screenshot, it shows the email id " steven.soulvision@gmail.com', and when i checked the previous profile of soulvision, his registered mail id is same email id " steven.soulvision@gmail.com'.


    Let me hear the side of atlusphere aka soulvision now..


    @browsing host - I understood you, but be calm, so i can handle this issue..
     
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    steven.soulvision@gmail.com is my primary personal email and the email I have used for almost a decade now...since at least 2004. Can provide proof of that if needed too. It's not hard for whoever scammed him to know this, as that was my primary email on my paypal account for years and where payments were sent to. Like I've told Jatin via AIM, the person who scammed him is most likely, or at some point was a partner of mine.