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Starting to think my site is sandboxed rather than penalised...

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by ok180, Dec 23, 2012.

  1. ok180

    ok180 Junior Member

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    In June this year I started a new site with a domain I already had registered for about a year. By late August I had the site ranking #1 for some big terms about 27k exacts a month as well as some other commercial terms in the 1-3k exact match/month range. Backlinking up until now was done only very lightly and there was good variety of anchor texts and naked Url's. Late August a competitor hammered my site with about 25k blog spam links all with my big money term. A few weeks later the site started to fall away, Panda refresh hit and the site dropped some more and then penguin saw the site fall to around page 50. I submitted a disavow report and the site dropped even further to page 80ish. As of last night the site is back to page 44 for it's biggest term.

    What im started to think though is the site has been put in the sandbox rather than any penguin/panda penalty from the links. I know the site has no manual action against it becuase I sent in a reconsideration request and they said no manual action was taken against the site.


    What do you think? Is the site just serving a time out in the sandbox because of the big influx of links? It's been about 3 months now since the site started to drop.
     
  2. steelballs

    steelballs BANNED BANNED

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    Look many factors may apply but what I do know is that unless you keep adding new - original - unique content to the site you do not have a hope in hell of maintaining high indexing and ranking in the SEs without spending a ton of money on SEO et al...

    The days of loading up a site getting it ranked and it stays there without support are long gone...
     
  3. ok180

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    Site is ecom, we regularly add new products. That's not the problem here.
     
  4. ok180

    ok180 Junior Member

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    bumpage, interested to hear other peoples opinions on this.
     
  5. JoshN

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    I have a site sitting in the sandbox. Every 60 days it gets its traffic back for 2 weeks. It's like a lightswitch and it goes from like 30 uniques a day to 300. After 2 weeks it shuts right back off and has been doing this for a while.

    There is deff a sandbox
     
  6. rugbyjack2005

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    For the page that you say use to rank, what happens when you copy a sentence or paragraph from it and Google it? Is the page still indexed?
     
  7. ok180

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    Yes the page is still indexed, although the content has been scraped and reused by others so my site doesnt show until page 3.
     
  8. rugbyjack2005

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    To be honest I haven't heard of anyone being sandboxed for ages. It always use to happen to new sites that Google was unsure about, not ones that have been around a while. Sandboxing at the end of the day is still a penalty but it sounds to me like your site was hit by Panda if the content is on other sites too. Use Chartelligence to overlay on your Google Analytics data and I reckon you will see your visitors dropping right after a Panda update.

    Whatever the case though, you will want to go through your content making sure it is completely unique and original. Its annoying if you wrote it originally and others have pinched it and you have ended up with the penalty but that happens. Dan Petrovic did a post on hijacking content a month or so ago that might make interesting reading for you http://dejanseo.com.au/hijacked/ When writing your new content, make sure you keep your keyword densities below 2.5% as you may as well cover all bases
     
  9. ok180

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    This is the traffic drop with the chartelligence overlay:

    site drop.jpg

    As you can see, the drop happened a few days before 3.9.2 kicked in. This was about 3 weeks after the site got blasted. Traffic got worse again after the penguin update and has not recovered since.