1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Starting off - A few questions.

Discussion in 'CPA' started by megaforcetkd, Jun 9, 2009.

  1. megaforcetkd

    megaforcetkd Registered Member

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2006
    Messages:
    78
    Likes Received:
    3
    Hey guys, I'm a new member at BHW and am just starting off with CPA.

    Currently, I'm waiting on approval from Hydra, Copeac, and Azoogle, but want to get started planning my attack strategy.

    I've been doing hours and hours of research prowling through these forums and have learned A LOT. But there are some things (some stupid things) that I've seemed to miss out on.

    My first question is based on blackhat CPA marketing. I understand some of these methods involve sending people directly to fill out offers and such, but then I see people asking about staying under the radar. What does this pertain to? In these methods, are you sending visitors directly to a page provided by the advertiser? And so then where would you be sending this fake traffic to stay under the radar?

    Also, does anyone have more information regarding double meta refreshers, iFraming offers, faking/blanking referrers etc? I've heard a lot of talk about these but have no idea how to iFrame offers / what double meta refreshers are and how to use them, as well as how to fake or blank referrers.

    Thanks in advance to anyone who helps.

    Sorry if these are stupid questions - I'm just a 17 year old trying to kick start my career :).
     
  2. low key

    low key Junior Member

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2009
    Messages:
    151
    Likes Received:
    38
    Occupation:
    nah. but thanks.
    First off, your not just a 17 year old. You are a 17 year old.
    There are some 13 year old kick ass black hat marketers here, lol.

    Well, because we do blackhat we need to stay under the radar. So if our conversions are too high we send junk traffic to the exact same offer/link.

    We get this link from our cpa network, but often we want to blank the referrer or fake it. One way to blank it is using double meta refreshers. You can search the forums, there are guides. So then we buy a domain name and use double meta refresh and redirect to the correct link. Or you could use blogspot I think.

    I'm sure there are also guides on how to iframe, when I first iframed I googled it because I didn't know about this forum. (only crappy forums)

    I recommend you also try signing up for MaxBounty.

    The key is to not just test a method, but to actually make it happen and make money with it. There are tons of methods on here, you can also find your own.

    And take action. There are tons of people on here that have already quit their job. And a lot of people very close to it. You'll have no problem doing it once you start doing something.

    I can tell you that I've never had a job, and never will.

    That's all I can answer.
    For faster answers try searching and replying in other threads related to the question you have.
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 1
    Last edited: Jun 9, 2009
  3. megaforcetkd

    megaforcetkd Registered Member

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2006
    Messages:
    78
    Likes Received:
    3
    Cheers mate, your post helped a lot.

    So basically with these double meta refreshers, I use it on a blank page that redirects to the offer link?

    And why do you recommend me signing up for MaxBounty?

    I've been signing up to these networks saying I'm a co owner of a site (I am not, but my friend does own the site). Is there anything special about MaxBounty?

    Thanks for the info again. You're right - I'm 17 years old and I've got a long way to go. I actually have a year on most people - I turn 18 at the end of the year so I'll be DONE with my 1st year of college BEFORE I'm 18 :).

    If I really can manage to get myself started properly and start making some real paper, I can tell you that this will be my focus and I will stick on this path. It's been a great source of knowledge so far, and I plan to milk it for all it's worth!
     
  4. low key

    low key Junior Member

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2009
    Messages:
    151
    Likes Received:
    38
    Occupation:
    nah. but thanks.
    yes, don't have anything other than the redirect code in the page.
    You can create a new page for it, domain.com/newpage.php
    or you could have it on the main page, for that make a index.php file.

    I've only tried doing a php redirect which is very simple but does not hide the referrer. The double meta refresh is probably simple, I just haven't had to use it.
    Just search for it and insert the code in a new page.
    Remember you might have to name it .php, not .html.

    I just like MaxBounty and a lot of people do. I like how their site is layed out, how you can filter things and look at all offers at once.

    When I tried to join I simply said that I was a heavy PPC marketer and didn't have any website to show because I direct link and make landing pages after chosing the offers.

    Then of course when they called they heard how young I was (14) so maybe that actually helped me because they didn't want to decline me.

    But they asked me a few questions and I just lied.
     
  5. megaforcetkd

    megaforcetkd Registered Member

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2006
    Messages:
    78
    Likes Received:
    3
    Cheers bro - I've downloaded CakeSlice and that should help with iFraming.

    Hydra's being a bitch INSISTING that I HAVE to call them even if it means calling at 3AM my time... The other ones I left a message with or send an online questionnaire.

    I'll try applying for MaxBounty.

    Is there any blackhat stuff I can do with commission junction?
     
  6. stobex

    stobex Registered Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2009
    Messages:
    52
    Likes Received:
    12
    Megaforce i hope you dont mind if i jump in(awesome name btw) and ask a few questions too as i want to start up on CPA myself.
    Ive read tons of stuff about this but thats probably a part of the problem too reading too much and getting confused about it all.

    Say i get traffic for my offers i have from CL for a email signup or the like, do i have to create a "fake" site for this or is it all good if i can just link my leads to the offer to any site i might have and have the referer blanked? Wont my AM wonder where the hell these leads came from ? Or will they simply not care that i in fact might now have no real site at all?
    These are probably silly questions to most of you but since ive never done anything like this im a little confused about it.
     
  7. megaforcetkd

    megaforcetkd Registered Member

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2006
    Messages:
    78
    Likes Received:
    3
    From what if they have no referrer or see they're from emails... They won't mind? Because email marketing is perfectly legitamate.

    Please correct me if I'm wrong.
     
  8. Silencer

    Silencer Senior Member

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2008
    Messages:
    1,149
    Likes Received:
    1,639
    Don't say you're just 17. I'm 13, and I made $300 in a week.
     
  9. megaforcetkd

    megaforcetkd Registered Member

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2006
    Messages:
    78
    Likes Received:
    3
    That's true - I'm just trying to get started.

    Also one more question - when people say to get whitehat leads, how do I do this? Does this involve actually making a sale?
     
  10. Alex Brooks

    Alex Brooks BANNED BANNED

    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2009
    Messages:
    1,199
    Likes Received:
    297
    I agree with that 100%, I suggest signing up to Max Bounty as well, if you search for 'cakeslice', it's a very easy to use web application which iframes your offers, it's the easiest to use web application, if your looking to pay for better features, check out godcpa, it's got countless features. The seasrch button is your friend :)
     
  11. megaforcetkd

    megaforcetkd Registered Member

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2006
    Messages:
    78
    Likes Received:
    3
    Yeah I've got cakeslice, but am not sure about faking the referrer with it? I found the WP plugin here that redirects to fake the referrer, but don't know how to integrate it.

    ALSO!

    I've got my FIRST acceptance with Spire Vision!

    I just started talking to the AM on AIM and got approved in minutes.

    Code:
    Is this message unwanted or inappropriate?  Report this User
    Megaforcetkd (5:46:00 PM): Hi Eric, I just applied to be a part of your network and was hopign to expedite the approval process.
    EricOsterman is available (10:49:57 PM)
    EricOsterman (10:49:54 PM): hey there
    Megaforcetkd (10:50:00 PM): Hello
    EricOsterman (10:50:22 PM): can you tell me a little bit about your company?
    Megaforcetkd (10:50:34 PM): Well I'm the co owner of Simply Shredded
    EricOsterman (10:50:45 PM): k
    Megaforcetkd (10:50:51 PM): We're currently running ads from AdSense and CJ but are currently looking for more networks to work with
    Megaforcetkd (10:51:01 PM): Average traffic is around 1k a day
    Megaforcetkd (10:51:15 PM): And we're making approximately 800 USD a month from CJ ads
    EricOsterman (10:51:15 PM): what types of offers are you looking for?
    Megaforcetkd (10:51:27 PM): At the moment offers geared towards health/fitness
    Megaforcetkd (10:51:33 PM): But we also have plans to start more projects
    EricOsterman (10:51:33 PM): ah...okay
    Megaforcetkd (10:51:44 PM): Where there's money, we go 
    EricOsterman (10:51:44 PM): what type of traffic?
    Megaforcetkd (10:51:53 PM): We get very targetted traffic
    Megaforcetkd (10:52:00 PM): Mostly from bodybuilding.com
    EricOsterman (10:52:02 PM): through search?
    Megaforcetkd (10:52:10 PM): Through bb.com's bodyspace
    Megaforcetkd (10:52:19 PM): Mostly - we are starting some PPC too
    EricOsterman (10:52:21 PM): not familiar
    Megaforcetkd (10:52:33 PM): Ah well bodybuilding.com is the world's most popular bodybuilding sites
    Megaforcetkd (10:52:49 PM): We host competitions and so we get traffic through there - which is great for us since it's targetted and it converts nicely.
    EricOsterman (10:52:56 PM): sure
    Megaforcetkd (10:53:20 PM): We're also planinng on starting a newsletter
    Megaforcetkd (10:53:26 PM): Which we'll make sure is double opt-in
    EricOsterman (10:53:27 PM): well....we are mostly geared around the EDU space
    Megaforcetkd (10:53:30 PM): So that gives us another option
    Megaforcetkd (10:53:44 PM): Oh I see..
    EricOsterman (10:53:55 PM): we have a couple of diet offers, but most of our advertiser want email traffic
    EricOsterman (10:53:58 PM): we are a list manager too
    EricOsterman (10:54:02 PM): so we are a big mailer as well
    Megaforcetkd (10:54:18 PM): Ah I see.
    Megaforcetkd (10:55:13 PM): Well I completely understand if we don't fit the criteria you're looking for - I didn't notice your client base was so geared toward .edu
    EricOsterman (10:55:30 PM): yeah...i can approve you in the network
    EricOsterman (10:55:36 PM): not a big deal
    EricOsterman (10:55:41 PM): just not sure we have what you re looking for
    Megaforcetkd (10:55:53 PM): Either way - we're planning on moving around anyway
    EricOsterman (10:56:04 PM): cool
    EricOsterman (10:56:15 PM): i'll approve the account
    Megaforcetkd (10:56:18 PM): My colleague dedicates a lot of his time to the site but I'm more of a general internet marketer
    Megaforcetkd (10:56:21 PM): Sounds good, thanks a lot 
    EDIT: Got rejected from Niche Marketers Network =[ Oh well.

    Another EDIT: I never realized AM's could see your password. Now I'm embarassed as hell because my password is ridiculously gay.
     
    Last edited: Jun 10, 2009
  12. megaforcetkd

    megaforcetkd Registered Member

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2006
    Messages:
    78
    Likes Received:
    3
    Just got accepted to ClickBooth (pending activation) and MaxBounty!

    I'm so excited :)
     
  13. SubMerged

    SubMerged Newbie

    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2009
    Messages:
    14
    Likes Received:
    1
    Occupation:
    hah
    Location:
    Japan
    i was rejected to maxbounty, how should i go about reapplying in order to get accepted?
     
  14. megaforcetkd

    megaforcetkd Registered Member

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2006
    Messages:
    78
    Likes Received:
    3
    I'm not sure... I'd say hit them up on AIM and have a nice talk with them. Be polite and use proper English.

    BTW, they read BHW forums rofl. Can I change my username?
     
  15. megaforcetkd

    megaforcetkd Registered Member

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2006
    Messages:
    78
    Likes Received:
    3
    Haven't used cakeslice mate, I just got an email from MaxBounty saying I shouldn't rofl - they saw my posts here.

    Yeah sure just shoot me a PM with your MSN
     
  16. ShyGirl

    ShyGirl Newbie

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2009
    Messages:
    7
    Likes Received:
    12
    Location:
    London
    I need to talk to some of you boys, I wish you were all my younger brothers.

    I've been accepted into several networks but I'm not sure what to do now. I really don't want to start spamming people with gmail. I get so much spam and it's pants.

    What other options are there? My head is spinning with all the techie stuff. :confused:

    How did you all start? What books/threads did you read?