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Starting a bunch of micro niche sites on one (or two) host

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by DesignEx, Sep 22, 2011.

  1. DesignEx

    DesignEx Regular Member

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    I'm thinking about doing a bunch of micro-niche sites. I've been in the web development & IM game for around 13 years, so I can knock them out pretty quick.

    I've never tried micro-niche sites though, so I wanted to get some advice from people who've done it before in the past themselves to possibly pick holes in my plan.

    I wanted to buy around 25 domains, and write around 6-7 articles on each Wordpress site to start (with all the plugins installed on each). They'd all be exact match domains, and would be monetized with Adsense.

    I was planning to do the first 25 on the same host, does anyone see this as a big problem? I really don't want to purchase a bunch of different hosting plans, or a bunch of unique IPs unless it is completely necessary.

    The sites will be similar, but will use different Wordpress themes (which I'll probably modify further as well).

    I plan on writing all of the content myself, and not spinning anything. I actually want the content to be decent, and relevant. However I can write fast, so at times I may have to sacrifice a little speed type errors. Plan on getting two sites done a day.

    Now about the marketing. I'm a bit worried that Google will see all these new sites coming onto my adsense account at once, coming from the same hosting account, and linked in the same way at near the same time. Am I overreacting to this or being too cautious?

    Aside from that, for linking I plan on building some basic link pyramids to the homepage of each, and building only high PR (mostly relevant) comments using SB.

    Does this plan seem valid to you guys that have done it before, can you see anywhere I can improve?
     
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    G-S-T Executive VIP Jr. VIP

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    How old is your adsense account? I have had mine for about 5 years, I have added adsense to a network of blogs that had around 30 domians, all in 1 day and it was not an issue.
     
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    Can you do this and be successful? Sure...

    The biggest problem with this idea though is focus, you are now distributing yourself to 25 different domains that need linkbuilding, content creation, monitoring, etc.

    I've been there and done that, and while some sites still make some decent income, overall its really not all that worth it. My biggest "wins" have been sites that I make large and grow a following around.

    Honestly - I'm gonna recommend you NOT doing this and focus on one or maybe two websites around a topic that you are PASSIONATE about. You can only be so passionate about these micro niche sites and trust me, you'll be banging your head on the table when you begin cranking out content for these sites.
     
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    I wish I had enough cash I would start this journey with you
     
  5. DesignEx

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    That's the thing, I have experience in creating larger sites that I'm interested in. Have had great results, but what I'm really looking for is a formula of my own that I can make work in larger quantities. I know that is what everyone is searching for, and I think I may just have to try to push through the disinterestedness of some of the niches.

    My actual plan is to create a large test bed of different niches over time, and the ones that catch on, try to flesh out a bit and make those larger. Even the sites I'm 'interested in' at the start, I eventually get bored of as well later on.

    I appreciate your candidness, but it's something I just want to try out to see how it works out, if it ends up being a waste of time then I'm really only out 25 domains and some time. If it works, I have a new direction/option to make more money. (don't like putting all my eggs in one basket).



    @GST My adsense account is around 4 year old.

    I tend towards the cautious side of things... i.e. "Google knows more than you think". So I just like to be careful where I can.
     
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    downloaddiva Newbie

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    Sounds like an ambitious undertaking.

    Have you considered outsourcing your content? maybe do only 5 or 10 sites to start with and get enough content written to drip feed from wordpress while you focus on the next group.

    Work smart my friend, not hard.

    Then when you have those first sites built you can move on to the next batch.

    This is what I have learned from reading other posts here on BHW and in the actual products we [get]

    Good luck & Please keep us posted on your progress ;)
     
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  7. phluid

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    I agree with you to a point. I have sites that I am doing for the subject/niche alone and won't be upset if they don't make me good money because I enjoy them. At the same time if I am just going for profit I will build quite a few sites and take the sites that are converting the best and work on turning them into a real site instead of a micro site. Then I when I have time I try stuff to make the other sites convert better, if there is no luck I use them to test different linking methods.
     
  8. DesignEx

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    I agree completely. My thoughts were to outsource once I know what works for me. I don't want to hire a random content writer until I have a solid idea of what I want. I do outsource a lot of the linking because I have people that I can trust.

    My plan of action is usually.

    1) Try it myself.
    2) Find what works.
    3) Hire 2-3 well recommended people that specialize in that thing.
    4) Stick with the best one.

    I don't mind putting in the time in the beginning when it is something that I want to understand more about the process first.

    Drip feeding is another good point you bring up. I haven't tried drip feeding at all yet. I've heard people on here that only set up the site with all the content and basically leave it. And others that swear by drip feeding. It's just a wordpress plugin that lets you schedule articles for later right?
     
  9. GreyWolf

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    The amount of sites you're talking about aren't really enough to be that big a headache to manage (especially at your experience level). All the sites being hosted on the same server shouldn't be a problem as long as they're all independent (in other words don't interlink them for backlinks).

    I don't think you'll have any problem with this plan at all.
     
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  10. DesignEx

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    Great to hear, thanks. How about time, would it be better to focus on developing the content for ALL the sites, then focus on the linking... or create a site, start the linking, move on to the next one (give space between the launch of each, but generating links to each very quickly after launch). Not even sure if it matter much either way.
     
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    I put up 2-3 sites a day and prefer to put them up first then start with the links. When they have sat for a while already I seem to be able to build more links at a faster pace without dancing so much.
     
  12. GreyWolf

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    Kinda depends if you have all the content done already.

    Since they're all independent sites, you could actually throw them all up in one night with about a third or half the content, and then ping each site. Go back the next day add all but the last article on each site, ping the sites, and then start building some backlinks to each of them. Then give it a day or two, go back and post the last articles, then add you're adsense, affiliate links, or whatever else you plan to monetize with and start scaling up your backlink building.

    If it were me I'd probably take them one or a couple at a time though.
    day one - put up a couple sites, add some content, ping the sites.
    day two - do the same thing for a couple more sites, go back and add more content for the sites you made the day before and build a few backlinks for them.
    day three - do the same thing again.
    day four - do the same thing again, and go back to add the final articles and advertisements on the pages from the day one sites and then scale up the backlinks for those sites.
    day five and on - just keep rolling that process forward till you have all your sites built, populated with content, adblocks placed, and initial backlinking done. Then just keep scaling up the backlinks and adding content as you rotate through the sites.

    You could actually accomplish that in just an hour or two a day. :cool2:

    The purpose of spreading out adding the content is to give the sites a chance to get indexed as content sites and let the crawlers know to keep checking for updates. The purpose of waiting a few days to add advertisements is to give the crawlers the impression that these are content based sites and not advertising sites.

    I probably didn't explain that very well, but I hope you can get the idea from it. Good luck. :pirate:
     
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    Your plan looks good. I'm doing something very similar (check my threads, and you'll me tracking my journey). I see a few people saying to go after one or two big sites, and while that is ultimately the goal for many of us, it is simply not feasible. In a sense, it comes down to your resources. Do you have the budget to target a comeptitive niche?

    I, for one, do not, which is why I'm going after micro niches. They are easy to rank, and though you won't make a killing off of one, you can have a decent passive income if you work the numbers game.
     
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  14. DesignEx

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    Yep... I get exactly what you mean, thanks. How about pinging, should I use some third party ping service, or just stick with the Wordpress (or plugin) ones.
     
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    Either way shouldn't really matter. If you want to use some pinging services just to get a bit more chance of getting indexed sooner you can. Since you don't have any ads on the site initially it shouldn't cause any problems.