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Stable Online Earnings - Life's Hardest Question - Let's find answer and change our Life!

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by MOTIVE2015, Apr 24, 2016.

  1. MOTIVE2015

    MOTIVE2015 Registered Member

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    Hello BHW,
    On a sunny day I started to get into deep thinking. I started to think abotu life's hardest questions:
    > Does god exist?
    > Why are we made?
    > What is meaning of life?
    Then I got a life changing question in my head. That question changed my life, That question was:
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    I got no answers for many years. I tried many equations, Read many holy books and got no answers. After a while I got a voice from clouds saying, "Ask BHW guru, They shall help you and show you the right path. You are the chosen one to find answer to this question".
    After that I came running and decided to ask you.
    After thinking for a while I found that online marketing does not give us a stable source for income. After relizing that majority of methods here are just for short term and no method guarantee a long term money(At least bring income for 2+ years). I thought about many platforms and found they do no really guarantee income:
    > Facebook Ads - Facebook's new algo. can ban accounts quickly and promoting CPA offers or other shit can become really expensive = Less profit To No Profit
    > Google Rankings - New algo. can derank your website which will lead to decrease in income
    > Promoting Using PPV/PPC - Network's new policy and rates can effect your earnings a lot
    > Mobile Apps - Your game can become boring too soon and lot of investment is requirement

    If someone has a budget of $30,000 and 50% profit made from website will be used as capital and re-invested to increase earnings :)
    Is it possible to make a income source that can bring $1,000/daily that can last for at least ~2 years
    Of course, Lot of hard work will be involved and it does not matter if no earnings come for ~3 months.

    You can share your thoughts and ideas. Maybe make a authority health site etc? I wanted to know your thoughts about this topic.


     

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  2. june007

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    It can man but you will need a lot of social account+article.
     
  3. MOTIVE2015

    MOTIVE2015 Registered Member

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    Mind answering it detail, gentlemen? Of course It can happen theoretically but we must think practically. Because in IM science we must make it happen and possible in our today's life.
     
  4. brockshoot

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    its useless for me who haven't much money ... :(
     
  5. MOTIVE2015

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    lol Are you that guy that just wants to tell himself that IM is not for him and IM is too hard? -_-
    At least you can get idea from posts here what you should do to get stable income from IM :)
     
  6. Capo Dei Capi

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    Diversification with many different methods and websites. But why just stable income from IM, why not passive income via investments as well?
     
  7. MOTIVE2015

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    ONLY ONE income source is required because that will only create one goal and adding lots of websites and income sources will create mess etc. One website is much more better.

    Stable income from IM because those are earnings that will surely help you in long term and they will act as income for your living etc :)
     
  8. THUNDERELVI

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    The answer is very simple: ADAPT TO CHANGE!
     
  9. MOTIVE2015

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    So what you are saying is I should always fear about something can happen to my income source because I am too stupid to think that google's new algo. can be found and fixed in a month and waste my time again?

    What if I decide to leave my home country and go to some good location and enjoy my life? Should I start to wake all night and cry that I won't be able to pay rent etc?

    It's always better to find a stable income because that's long term and you don't have to lose your sleep after every few months because something happened to your traffic source.

    Adapt to change is strategy that 90% users here do and when something new comes they simply come here and start to tell how fucked up their life has become because of losing rankings etc. and make jokes about company's employee -_-
    Then they will wait for next few months till some expert comes and tells about new algo and how they can rank again.

    I am looking for something more stable that will help me to go to bed in peace because one's my earnings started to come they will surely increase and I don't have to worry about traffic source and focus on content :)
     
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  10. vodkacola

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    Create a website or service that people actually use and that adds real value to this world, not just billboards full of affiliate links.
     
  11. MOTIVE2015

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    But what can be more stable? Ecommerce website selling stuff OR adsense site about different health/beauty topics OR CPA Affiliate website OR what?

    Thanks for your response :)
     
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    Google's new algorithm will not de-rank your website only if you have created and maintained it the right way.

    I would say that, An Authority site is a very stable source of income for a very long time.
     
  13. janeeth20

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    hello motive2015, i do understand your insecurity about stable income. A bit about my background: I personally feel SEO is good and recently I make about $120-200 a month profit with my affiliate site. I know it's not much man! but at least I am finally ranked somewhere haha. BUT, even though I make some improvements for my rankings, I still feel insecure about it. I'm afraid sooner or later I will get outranked, I'm afraid google algo will change, and I have to start over again, and most of all I'm afraid I fail to adapt with new changes. I do understand that feeling very well. Internet industry is changing at a much more rapid pace compared to conventional business and therefore having insecurities about our online earning is very very normal.

    even stable websites with returning/loyal visitors can still lose their earnings few years later. Even ebay dropshippers can lose their profit margin when new competition comes or people simply don't buy his products anymore due to some unexpected situations...anything can happen in matter of few years imo. We have seen a lot of internet big names getting "outdated" and replaced by fresher competitors. It's happening quite often. and if it can happen to them, it can also happen to small players like us..yep, i know those insecurities!

    but still, in the end I don't think it helps if you worry too much! A lot of things can happen in tech/internet industry within just few years so think about it as opportunity instead of as obstacle. Who knows few months from now you can finally create something creative and you create your own kickstarter campaign, and it goes viral, right? In conventional business, especially if you live in third world country like me, it's actually much harder to get rich from offline business except if you have connection to the right people or if you can make great food. BUT I have seen several local internet startups that goes really big in matter of 2 years which i dont think is possible with offline/conventional business in my country! Think about it like that. More rapid change = more opportunity too. So when someone above said "adapt to changes", it's actually true. with more changes, more opportunities for us too! If we don't have much changes, it means harder for us to challenge those with status quo. so we should think about it as opportunity instead of insecurities. That's how I see it now.

    As for how to do it, I believe the most stable way to make money on the internet is to create your own startup that focus on specific region. When america creates uber, local startup in my country created something very similar but with motorcycle instead of cars. because motorcycles are very popular in my country, it goes very big now and it's already a market leader here. The valuation goes really high and the guy who created it is now really rich, assuming he has a lot of shares under his own name, which I'm not sure. This is something that I dont think I can ever make in my lifetime with just SEO sites. When I can think of something really creative, I probably will go down that route. I just have to find the right people to get the right investors/funders.
     
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  14. vodkacola

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    Any of these can provide long term income if you do them right. My point is a lot of people here just focus on making fast $$$ with blackhat methods, but if you focus on actually creating something new and valuable that solves peoples problems you will see profits that last a lot longer.
    Look at your own browsing history for this week, and think: Which of those sites will I be visiting 2 years from now? Which of these services and products will I be paying for 2 years from now?
     
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    At first, I wanted to write a long ass post explaining to you why the answer is what I said above, but I thought you would get it. Clearly, you didn't, so here goes...
    First of all, you have to adapt to change in every damn industry and business you manage, be it online or offline. It doesn't matter if the business makes you peanuts or billions, change is something that WILL happen and you have to deal with it. Billion dollar companies/startups, IM businesses, brick & mortar ones (just to name a few) - each and every one of them encounters change on a daily basis. The difference between the successful and failed ones is that the successful ones adapt and always find a way to go forward, while the failed ones cry like you say. If you want to sleep in peace all your life with the business running itself, sorry to disappoint you, it WON'T happen... not immediately at least!

    Second of all, nothing is stable. As I said, even the most "stable-looking" jobs or businesses can go from hero to zero within the night. Even jobs are not stable. You never know when the company you are working for can fire you, either because your boss is a retard and likes doing that or because the company is bankrupting. Every business venture you will ever participate into (including getting a shitty 9-5 job) has its RISK. What you have to do is choose a business with minimal risk and maximum return and if possible, minimize the risk as much as you can.

    Third of all, 90% of users here don't even make any money & I'm pretty sure that figure is higher. Those people that come and cry on the forums every day are exactly the ones you don't want to follow. They cry, because simply enough, they cannot adapt to change. They followed a method, made some money for some time and when things got harder and shit hit the fan, they gave up. Bad for them, better for us others who do the opposite and move forward!

    Fourth, the very expert you should trust is YOU! Of course, read every thread in BHW, get as much knowledge as you can and try things for yourself. I'm not saying not to follow others, because there are a lot of smart people in this forum worth listening to. We all started that way... What I am saying is that, with time, you should be able to set your own rules, set your own methods to rank, come into your own conclusions, etc... That will allow you to work smarter and at the same time stay ahead of the game.

    Last, let's talk about SEO. I started doing it since 2009 (2010 to be more exact, because most months in the beginning involved mainly reading & experimenting) and still doing it today in 2016. I have come across 100-s of methods to rank, blackhat, whitehat (there are no whitehat methods btw), greyhat - you name it. I have developed my own "methods" to rank which are immune to most algorithm changes. In fact, with each change, rankings go higher.

    Of course, I have had LOTS of sites deindexed, lost rankings, lost money, etc... To be honest, it's a fun game for me, and a game which can make me a shit ton of money. And I'm not the only one. Hundreds of other people (and tens that I know personally) still grind with SEO and make a lot of money. So cut the shit and start working. There is no magic stable traffic source or business that will make you money while you sleep, end of story!

    P.S. Btw, I sleep just fine and leave my home country quite a lot, because I love travelling.
     
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  16. MOTIVE2015

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    First of all thanks a lot for taking time to write a detailed post. I really appreciate it :)

    About time and changes. That's why I aim for a site to bring for at least 2 years, even if it goes just after 1 day of 2 years I will have no problem because I have already setup lots of things that are worth way more than that website.
    I too have other income source in mind but I just wanted a stable income source which can be a backup income source. I don't want to stress about me getting near to not be able to pay bills.

    Of course, Time changes everything but some sites just remain the same. Like wikihow, ign and some news websites etc. I am just looking for a income source that can bring $1,000/daily for 2 years at max. After that I will be having enough money to create income source that will help me to live life without working.

    Thanks a lot for your reply and I really appreciate that. I just want to get a income source that can help me go to sleep at night in peace in mind that I can work towards my big dream without getting near to average income :)
    That would be a good feeling because now I am only working for my dream goal and I have stable income source that can pay my bills for many months even if my big plan does not work.
     
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    Thanks a lot for reply. Really appreciate it :)

    I really loved your advice on how you ask to check my history and figure our websites that I majority of time visit at least one time daily from past many years.

    Thanks for that advice, I hope that really gives me some good idea.
     
  18. MOTIVE2015

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    Thanks a lot for reply. Really appreciate it :)

    I never said that I just wanted to get a income source that can bring thousands of dollars daily and I am just sleeping and not even taking care of it. I just wanted to get a safe income source in my side because when my other income source fails (Which is very hard or near to impossible for now but I know anything can happen at any time) So I just wanted a stable income in my side that can become my backup source for income. I just wanted to be safe in country I will be living in.
    My other income source can be great but who knows what can happen at any given movement. So, I just wanted to get a backup money source :)

    Thanks a lot for your advice and I really appreciate you took time to write it. I do understand what you mean but I just created this thread because to get a idea that I can create my backup income source of. Because my current method includes playing with algo. so I don't think that is safe in long term.

    Thanks again for your advice and I will surely take them in consideration.
     
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    I don't get why your so picky on where your money comes from, money is money. Having 100% of income coming from IM and not any kind of passive income via investments is crazy.