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Someone else selling my 'on demand' product on Amazon. How??

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by kendra, Aug 4, 2011.

  1. kendra

    kendra Power Member

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    NOTE: Sorry to post this again - I've 'deleted' the content of the other thread, as I realised the title made no bloody sense. :D

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    I have a number of my own products listed on Amazon via Createspace.

    Recently I noticed that on Amazon.com my items are listed in the New and Used section by a seller named "Quick N Easy Marketplace". However as my item is manufactured on demand - there is no way these guys could have a new copy of my product.

    They are also selling my item at the same price I sell at. So there would be no profit in them using this as a drop-shipping service as I am the only place they can get this item from.

    I have heard that a seller called "Any Book" also does this - and that they are well known for doing it.

    Anyway here is an example of what I am talking about:
    http://anonym.to/?http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0049U4S00/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&me=&seller=

    So does anyone know what this is all about?
     
  2. saveferris

    saveferris Registered Member

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    I assume you are the seller with the item at $10.98 and free shipping. Probably this company (Quick_N_Easy) would just order it from you and sell it at a higher price. He pays $10.98 but sells it for $12.58 plus $2.98 shipping. He has a Prime membership and has it shipped directly to the customer, so it doesn't cost him anything to ship. In the end, he makes about $1.89 profit. Obviously, most people won't buy from him because of the higher price. But there are always some that equate higher price to better quality, so he'll get some sales here and there. Because it's created on demand, he doesn't have to worry about an out of stock situation so he may target a lot of Createspace products.

    My question for you is... how are you able to sell the soundtrack for Hereafter via Createspace? It's not public domain, is it? Did you have to buy the rights?
     
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  3. kendra

    kendra Power Member

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    Thanks for the reply saveferris.

    The Hereafter CD isn't actually the product I am selling - it is just an example that is in the exact same situation as the product I am selling.

    Thing is - on my own product - Quick_N_Easy are selling the item at the same price I sell it at. However they do charge shipping...I assume their profit on the item therefore comes from the shipping fees?

    My worry is that they are pirating my product and selling it...
     
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  4. kendra

    kendra Power Member

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    Also - on another note. There is another seller out there that does this with books - they are called Any_Book.

    Apparently they don't actually make much (any?) profit from the sales, what they do is collect e-mail addresses and customer profiling - and then sell that info. Anyone know anything about that?
     
  5. saveferris

    saveferris Registered Member

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    I doubt that with the track record that seller has on Amazon (and a 99% feedback rate) that they are pirating the products.

    I really think they're just using a Prime membership to game the system. Take a book that is for sale at $12.98, free shipping with Prime. They can sell that same book for $12.98 plus the standard $3.99 shipping, have it delivered free via Prime, and still come out 69 cents ahead.

    It only works up to about the $16.99 price point, and then they start losing money. The lower the price, the more they make. For a $16.99 product, they make about 9 cents. For a $4.99 product, they make $1.89. Strange but true.

    As you said, they may see this as a break-even scenario to acquire a customer list, though that would technically be a violation of Amazon's terms. They're not supposed to include any flyers or anything with the item, nor are they allowed to contact customers unless it is for a reason directly related to their purchase.
     
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    @Saveferris - that is some very good information.
     
  7. SEORocks

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    I have seen this done on a few sites...ebay was one that I knew a few people doing this. They didn't care about the profit...no losses but very small profit was fine.

    On some items they actually made a lot of money on volume, on others it was to build a targeted list since they had folks looking for exactly what the were selling.

    They then marketed higher priced items via email for a very nice profit.

    When someone knows they can order an item on demand and it is always there, it is real easy to take the order, then order from the on demand site, have it shipped directly to the customer as if it were being shipped to them.

    It really makes some mad to see their product listed for sale when they know it is a one of a kind product. The only way to stop this is to prove they are going against the TOS for that website they are advertising on.

    Sometimes they are made to show how or where they get the product they are selling. Really depends on the website you are selling on, some just don't care.....money is money to them but the good sites will kick the person off the site.
     
  8. saveferris

    saveferris Registered Member

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    If it was my product, I wouldn't care a bit. After all, whether someone orders from me or from them, I still make exactly the same amount of money. If someone else makes a buck for their efforts, that's fine with me as long as it doesn't come out of my profits. And in this case, it doesn't.
     
  9. SEORocks

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    I agree with you to a point. What you need to remember is that a lot of sellers are NOT looking for a sale as you put it, they are looking for a life time customer they can market to.

    When they loose that customer to someone selling their own goods, it has a tendency to make them just a little mad.
     
  10. oblivionembraced

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    I think that we are missing a valuable lesson here. someone is selling your product for you........ummm as long as they aren't pirating it, enjoy the free extra effort on their part. maybe you can quit listing??? :)
     
  11. saveferris

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    If you quit listing, then they can't order the product from you and you won't make the sale.
     
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    Any idea how they are collecting customers emails it seems as the only info or way would be snail mail with all of the security there unless there is a loophole
     
  13. Techxan

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    I agree if they are buying from you a;ll is good, you should help them market their offer.

    If you can create the item on demand, why can't someone else but yours and do the same thing?

    Do you know they are or they are not pirating your work?

    If they are pirating, file a suit and take their money.