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Someone attacked some of my websites, I need help

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by ethanmitchel, Oct 21, 2012.

  1. ethanmitchel

    ethanmitchel Regular Member

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    So, some mother freaker decided to be a low life player and attacked some of my newly ranked websites that made it to first page.
    These domains are about 2 months old so they're fairly new. The only thing I can think of is building some high quality backlinks to them but honestly I'm kinda losing hope since I see them drowning down the SERP's more and more everyday despise my efforts.

    My attacker just sent a bunch of backlinks to me, not necessarily low quality or anything but the tricky a-hole looked up the keywords I was ranking for and then built those backlinks to my money site using THOSE EXACT KEYWORDS.

    Now, if you've understood what is the main reason why EMD's supposedly got attacked was because of their anchor text just like the other previous Google update, so this is how the freaker is drowning my websites.
    Is there ANY way to save these websites? or should I pretty much move on and build others like them again?​

    Again, any advice is greatly appreciated.

    God Bless
     
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  2. SmartMan

    SmartMan BANNED BANNED

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    My first advice for you is DON'T EVEN THINK about using the Google Disavow tool for this very reason.

    Keep doing what you're doing already on the site like posting new articles, building backlinks, etc., You know it. Maintain the flow but increase it a bit more this time. Your rankings will be back in the next refresh.
     
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  3. afrowanksta

    afrowanksta Registered Member

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    Linkdelete.com offers a backlink removal service. I don't know if it would be worth it to use, but it's available if you decide.
    Good luck
     
  4. ethanmitchel

    ethanmitchel Regular Member

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    Don't worry, I wasn't planning on using disavow, and no I won't pay I think it said 90 bucks for 1 website on linkdelete, the websites I created pretty much just cost me buying the domain so I can start again, but wanted to see if others had an idea on how to save them.
     
  5. ok180

    ok180 Junior Member

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    Why is everyone so against the Disavow tool. I say go and use it, test it out, what have you got to lose?

    Same thing happened to my site, it was sitting at #1, some A hole blasted it with over 20K blog comments for my main keyword and it's now on page 56! I plan to use the disavow tool to at least test it out. What have I got to lose?
     
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  6. twilightofidols

    twilightofidols Power Member

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    Imagine if the person who blasted ethanmitchel's attempting to drown it out of the SERPs happened to link build links from some of the same sites that were supporting your ranking. So he goes and disavows these links. Google now has 1 strike against the link that is helping support your tiers. Now imagine a few more people do the same. It's like handing them a blueprint of exactly which links to devalue without even having to worry about the algorithmic change. All of a sudden we're doing the work for them.
     
  7. MaxTucker

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    This is pure conjecture. You have no clue how Google plans to use the data. You are telling a guy to let his sites suffer from negative SEO because you think there is some big Google disavow conspiracy. It is like telling a man dying of thirst not to drink because the water 'may' be poisonous. What ridiculously stupid and damaging advice.

    Maybe Google is using the data to devalue links, maybe they are not. I do not know and frankly I do not care. By the end of the year millions of links will have been disavowed. There is nothing you or anybody here can do to change that. If Google is using the data to devalue links all blackhat links will be devalued. Do you really think telling the OP not to disavow his links will change this?

    ethanmitchel, use the disavow tool. It is there for a reason. We have no way of knowing if Google will use the data to devalue links. And, if they do, your using it won't make a difference Thousands of people like you will use the tool anyway. Don't listen to these clueless morons. All they do is regurgitate baseless information they read in some rubbish thread. They have about as much SEO sense as the pigeons they emulate.
     
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  8. ethanmitchel

    ethanmitchel Regular Member

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    I really appreciate y'alls input. Thank you for wanting to help me out giving me advice.
     
  9. Amsterdammer

    Amsterdammer Power Member

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    ethanmitchel, perhaps a nooby at work here but couldn't you 300 those links? You know the incoming url or referrer so why not take action based on that? Isn't that how webmasters respond to stealing content or hotlinking too? Granted, not over several thousand links but there is a bot to be written for that. Not to mention it is a BH technique to ranking your site if used in another way and as I just realized to protect as well I guess...
    Could be totally wrong here but thought I would just throw it in there. lol Perhaps others can pitch in too.

    Hope this helps but if not feel free to ignore. :)


    MaxTucker, perhaps you should hear the master puppet player himself about the tool.
    I am a nooby but even I can see they are marketing this as an anti-negative SEO tool that will ultimately backfire on all blackhatters.
    He is specifically telling about strategies that are used by people on this forum. He also mentions that if you try to undo the "disembowel tool" Google may or may not give the same weight to the links as before. This kind of implies it takes into account how many spam complaints there are from that domain.

    Again, I am a n00by but if I look at this forum, then listen to that "No Evil" guy, I get the distinct impression the next animal released will cause havoc on this forum.

    Then again, before this disembowel tool was out, the common advise on this forum given even by Mods was to just keep on building and G would figure it out itself leaving your domain stronger than before. By disemboweling you are a non paid volunteer for Google.

    As a community, the way to stop this madness is to mass disembowel Google. Spamming them with requests then taking all the requests back again. Let the bastids work for it. Also, as a community I would declare war and start clicking their ads. With diminished income from advertisements those companies will turn away from G. . . . And I do not mean clicking the ebooks and other crap, I mean legit companies spending serious amounts of cash on the G-pool. Sort of like an improved Ddos-attack continued over months. :) Eventually, the other search engines will benefit, blackhatters will benefit and G will lose it's nr 1 ranking for paid traffic, sort of.
    Anyways, I am talking too much.

    Just watch the video, make up your own mind. :)



    Post Scriptum: I know, it isn't written as disembowel by G...
     
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  10. MaxTucker

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    I watched the video. However, I am not a nutter who sees conspiracy theories every time Matt Twats opens his mouth. It makes no difference what Google uses the data for. They may be using it to identify spam links so they can slap sites in future updates. However, it is equally possible that they won't use the data at all.

    It should not matter to Blackhatters if or how Google will use the data.

    Let's look at the two options.


    1. Use the tool.
    2. Do not use the tool.

    If you use the tool you may have a chance of improving your rankings and combating negative SEO. However, you may also be helping Google identify spam links.

    If you don't use the tool your rankings stay the same and you have no chance of combating negative SEO.

    The important point to note is that regardless of what you do, hundreds of thousands of people will use the tool. So any link you report has likely already been reported one hundred times over.

    So what is the best option?

    Use the tool. If you use the tool you might improve your rankings and you wont be giving Google any information they don't already have.

    As for this community banding together..... it won't happen and even if it does this community is too small. It may seem big but it is tiny. All the guys at Warriortwat and Digitaltwat will be using this tool anyway.

    So again, Ethan, use the tool and get rid of those shitty links.
     
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  11. dan777

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  12. twilightofidols

    twilightofidols Power Member

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    That's cute bro, you tried. You know the meaning of the word imagine right? You see how I stated my post as a hypothetical. That's funny my phone bill, my water bill, and my power bill don't seem to think I have as much SEO sense as the pigeons I emulate. Quit acting like a child and calling people names because you disagree with them. If you read my posts you'd know that I've contributed to this forum with anything but "regurgitating baseless information they read in some rubbish thread". I've lived it brother, this is my job, my livelihood, the food on my plate depends on the fact that I have some semblance of what I'm talking about.

    Want a dirty secret? Much of what we think we know about SEO is conjecture. I can't prove anything, I don't claim to. I only speak from my own gut intuition and experiences. My insights are posted on a take it or leave it basis. If you don't like what I have to say fine, but helping the OP doesn't require bashing on other posters.
     
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  13. veheme

    veheme Elite Member

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    PM me your Skype ID Ethan, I could help you out.
     
  14. Getwhatchuwant

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    Wait, so we are supposed to steer clear of the disavow tool because it may affect others yet the fact that some jerk used neg seo is fair game?

    Sorry but if there were "honor among thieves" in the 1st place no one WOULD use it. The kicker here is the guys who use spam to neg seo you are the most likely to use tools to rank themselves in the 1st place. I see it as poetic justice to be honest.
     
  15. twilightofidols

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    Nobody knows the full implications of this new tool yet. We've yet to feel the real gravity of how it's going to impact the SERPs. My personal feeling is that it's a bad thing for us, and a good thing for Google. Whether or not that will prove to be the case only time will tell, until then I am going to keep doing what works for me.
     
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    Just do your normal link building strategy, dont use your keywords as your anchor, try to dilute them.

    In this way, those links "may" help you in long run. Just continue your link building habits daily.
     
  17. ethanmitchel

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    Thank you so much everyone again for telling me what you think is the best way to approach this. As always, I am never trying to start controversy but sometimes it happens.

    I truly appreciate all of y'alls help. :)
     
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    best of luck your problem is not that serious though as some of the other hacked sites
     
  19. partymarty4870

    partymarty4870 Elite Member

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    agree with most of what you say amsterdammer - BUT, you've got to remember that some BH'ers are legit companies. Or to put it more correctly they are companies using BH methods to gain an advantage in the serps. Not everyone on BHW sells shitty ebooks for a living you know.

    I'm one of those advertisers, I spend a good chunk of cash weekly with google, so please don't. (and anyone who knows me knows I aint no google fanboy - who ate all the pies matt?)
     
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  20. Amsterdammer

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    MaxTucker, I am sorry but I don't agree. This has nothing to do with tin foil hats either. There is not a doubt in a sane man's mind that Google will use the data. The company is build on using data. You are downplaying valid arguments.

    You are right in saying it shouldn't matter to anybody how Google uses that data though. People should adapt to new conditions. Including animal updates.
    However, to just roll over and cry because "They will do it anyways" is not my approach. To me, helping them by doing their job seems wrong. The Calimero approach is not my way.

    You could be right and it could turn out absolutely marvelous. However, based on the video I don't come to that conclusion. Others, like you, do. Apparently.

    Also, I don't have a personal problem with Google employees. They love their kids just like people do. :)

    Watching this forum though, I already spotted one post of someone actually spamming Google with this tool. Not intentionally, but still.

    As for a community banding: You would be surprised what happens when a few reputable people start a campaign. Perhaps we can't click-spam but we can certainly disembowel-spam.

    Anyways, the above is just my opinion.

    PS, I missed your reply, hence the late answer.
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    partymarty4870, perhaps a "Do Not Hurt List"? :p I see your point though. It was just a thought, perhaps there are better ways. :)
    I started clicking on every single search. Will stop for now, but no promises. :p