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some SEO companies make $ just because of their name

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by nonai, Nov 11, 2014.

  1. nonai

    nonai Power Member

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    someone contacted me wanting SEO. I gave him a price quote of $1500. He goes "you are a FREELANCER and you want $1500? no thanks. xxx company is charging me $1000. "

    I checked his serp positions. He is on page 2 for all keywords he is targeting. I checked his backlinks. A bunch of garbage like free directories. Just garbage. His last backlink was created early 2013.

    xxx company is a very famous company that does web design and SEO. I won't name it, but let's say everyone here knows of them. There is no doubt that the websites they make are beautiful. but they dont know jack shit about seo. they are charging $1000 for doing literally nothing. nothing at all. This guy, and I imagine many other clients, pay them because of their name. And these idiots don't realize they are better off throwing their money in the trash can. After all, it's xxx company, they must know what they are doing.

    I am thinking of going to the dark side and doing the same thing. no need to work so hard. just charge $800 a month, submit their link to a bunch of directories, and sit on my ass. I wish I had a big name like xxx company.
     
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  2. Asif WILSON Khan

    Asif WILSON Khan Executive VIP Premium Member

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    Was he a Dentist?
     
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  3. nonai

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    no, why? are dentists idiots?
     
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    SinfulPromotions BANNED BANNED

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    Nonai, people trust brands and the people behind those trusted brands as opposed to just people. If that makes any sense.
     
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    BassTrackerBoats Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    Yeah, all that schooling, studying and working in the medical field as professionals and what not has caused them to lose brain cells.
     
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  6. SkyrocketSEO

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    Famous SEO company charging $1000/month? ....please tell me what is the name of xxx company...or is this just another dream of yours that you wanted top share with us
     
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    Asif WILSON Khan Executive VIP Premium Member

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    I thought most of your clients were Dentists. Are they idiots?
     
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    kacsa1337 Junior Member

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    What dark side you talking about OP? You already there.
    Just keep blaming xxx company because you failed.:)
     
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    That's the sad reality of local business marketing.

    These guys would also often prefer to pay $1,000 per month to someone's nephew... he had a computer class in high school back in 2005, he must know how the internetZ work...
     
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    I see no reason why you have to complain :) Instead, you should be focusing your time, securing clients, and ranking them to the top.

    I have call centers ready to reach out to clients, and investment backing me

    If you're looking to work with someone who knows what they're doing, hit me up.

    Meanwhile - yes - some people simply buy because of the brand name. Presentation is very important.

    90% of the guys out there know nothing about SEO and ranking. I highly respect people here on BHW a lot more.
     
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    Just like people buy Nike sneakers rather than "Billy Bob's homemade customer sneaks"

    ....and why people stay at the Hilton rather than "Jimbo's Sleep Shack"

    ....or brush their teeth with Crest rather than "Toothbrush Timmy's Smile Paste"

    MARKETING. It works.
     
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    I heard Jimbo's has rats and roaches.

    ... and whores.
     
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    Those are $5 whores, Hilton offers a plethora of choices, from Just Turned 19 Eastern European girls to YouPorn MILF stars.
     
  14. DannyZhang

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    I think you are focusing on the wrong things OP. Where I'm located, the SEO companies do the same thing. Very very persuasive marketing, to be honest I've fallen into it and paid for SEO which just doesn't work. Which is why I've set out to learn about SEO. Now I know that the links they provide are crap and they can't rank clients.

    I don't own a SEO company but from what I can tell their business model is getting clients to pay for their package and using cheap packages. Simply put they know they can't produce results so what they do is to acquire more customers. They know they can't keep clients so their only focus is getting more customers.

    To me at least that's a way to get customers but you can't keep them long term.

    If you know how to rank websites this represents a huge business opportunity. There are many angry clients who got fooled into paying $1000/mth which is not getting them results. All you need to show them is how paying $1500 is going to generate $5000 or more and you got yourself a happy customer. I hope you do not fall into the trap and join your competitors, it's really nonsense to me at least.
     
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    I don't know why this surprises you OP, this is like Marketing 101.

    There is an intangible value in brand recognition and goodwill.

    This is why companies buy out other companies in the real world so they can repackage their products/services under an established brand.

    This is why corporations pay athletes/celebrities to endorse their products.

    Reputation and branding have a real dollar value in the real world.
     
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    Green: Start a company an LLC or sole proprietorship and then offer your services on a website that is well-optimised (you'll want your clients to see what you can do by having your website as an example). After this, find someone that you can trust not to take advantage of you and offer your services to them for free. Have them sign a contract saying that you can use them as a reference once the work is finished. Just work hard on ranking their website and then use them as a reference on your website and when speaking with your leads.

    Another option is to lower your price quote. If you don't have much of a reputation and everyone else is flocking to another company, then get competitive and lower your prices enough to compete with them.

    Red: This is the story of many SEO companies, this shouldn't even surprise you.

    Pink: So what, you're just going to do the exact same thing that those shoddy "SEO companies" are doing instead of creating a reputable company that offers real services with real effort put into the work? Come on, that's no way to run a business!
     
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