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Some PBN Packages in marketplace aren't expired high DA domains but have spam links?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by freckletone, Apr 10, 2016.

  1. freckletone

    freckletone Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

    Jul 22, 2009
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    I've noticed there are two types of PBN links for sale in the market place. The first one is hard to find; blogs that are made from real expired domains with authority backlinks. These are the high quality ones and hard to find.

    Second are blogs that just have thousands of spam backlinks when you plug them into ahrefs... and you see all kinds of junk.. some are relative new sites...

    I guess both can be classified as PBN's but the first is more high quality I would imagine?

    Also, it seems like people are buying links blindly without inquiring as to what type of backlinks the PBN's have.. is it an expired domain with real links or something with thousands of spam links.... It seems like people care more about DA but how does a high DA of a new blog with thousands of spam links compare to that of an expired domain with legit links?

    My competitors who are dominating on the first page in competitive markets all have the first.... but it's hard to find them in the marketplace.

    What is your opinion on this? Do you care what kind of backlinks these pbn's have (if you are buying and don't have your own)?

    Am I the only one who likes to check backlinks of so called pbn's very carefully in ahrefs to see what type of links they have?
    Last edited: Apr 10, 2016
  2. umerjutt00

    umerjutt00 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

    Oct 28, 2011
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    Yes quality really matters otherwise you will not be getting good results. It is more better to buy good domains yourself and then use them as PBN. You will total control and more importantly, it will be more safe then a public network.
  3. loedown

    loedown Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

    Jun 29, 2009
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    Honestly I'd do it myself, my money domains are worth it.
  4. redrays

    redrays Regular Member

    Apr 3, 2015
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    1. DA is very easy to inflate with spam. You can kinda use it as a negative filter, flagging links below a certain threshold as not useful or at least in need of manual review. You can't really use it in the other direction, saying you'll take a link just because it's above a threshold you picked. As for the second part, in general a handful of good links are a lot more powerful than thousands of junk links.

    2. Sure, the quality of links pointing to your links determines how much juice you're gonna get.

    3. I think a lot of people do this, as there's no way other way to accurately judge what you're getting.

    In my opinion, the smart way to use most (all?) of the link packages on here and other forums is for lower tiers. If you want something to use for tier 1, test it on a throwaway domain first. This way you won't risk burning a site you care about, and you'll be able to see what you got in Webmaster Tools whether the seller gives you a report or not.

    I don't know if you'll be able to find anything useful, but you should probably focus on the more expensive packages, like the ones with monthly recurring costs. As you mention, it's both difficult and expensive to find good domains, so it should be expensive to place links on them too. Plus higher cost almost always means less low level spammers.