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Some of SEO myths about which we all should know!

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by varundbest, Feb 11, 2010.

  1. varundbest

    varundbest Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    I won't irritate you with an epic-like post and will just give small points, so no need to worry. Here we go -

    1) You gets pagerank if your content is original (well this one is good, it is true as well as false. Lets know why - if you add some content, as new page is created which gets some value if its filled with original content and internal backlinks gets you link juice and finally some pagerank).

    2) If the main domain have a good pr then link in inner pages is also good (well its also true as well as false. Because - if the main domain(homepage) have a good pr and the page where ur link is present is have a link in homepage, it will get link juice and eventually the chances of getting good pr will increase. So it will help but its not 100% that it will get good pr.).

    3) Nofollow links are useless. (they are helpful if they contains your anchor text but of no use in seo if there is no anchor text although you may get some traffic.).

    4) My site is not in google index so its sandboxed! (its not true! Its possible that google have not discovered it yet or it have visited but not indexed as google dont index everything it visits. Sandbox is no official term! Its a kind of a filter which dont let newer sites to rank better for good keywords, it dont means that your site will be removed from google index! Just serps will suffer)

    5) If my site is blacklisted, it will never recover! (just remove the virus from your server and ask google for a re-view of your site at webmaster tools)

    6) Google dont know about my backlinks if they don't appear when i search link:mysite.tld. (Its is completely false! Google don't show all links by that! Only good links giving you great link juice can be seen by that, you can see complete backlinks by webmaster tools).

    7) Black hat will get a new site killed! (Its true but you can escape that by using some brain - Firstly get good backlinks from ezine, hubpages, squidoo and some other sites like them then do black hat for those pages with your links and then after some time when all the links gets indexed, you can do some black hat directly to your site but don't be so greedy and never make black hat your main source of backlinks, only get 20% of backlinks by black hat for new sites and for older sites it can go up to 50% depending upon the age. This is the figure to get you on 99.99% safe side).

    8) Social bookmarking gets you pagerank (Its true if the sites are without nofollow but if its with nofollow links then it will only help in getting indexed faster).

    Some of my thoughts about which i am not 100% sure -

    1) Domain age doesn't matters! (Like if a domain is 10 years old but indexed yesterday then it will be treated like a new site! The time when it was first indexed matter and the value may decrease if your domain was blacklisted or penalized due to duplicate content or some other issues in the meantime)

    2) Content which is sinned by softwares or with bad grammar will get you penalized (i do a lot of experimentations with google to know all of their latest techniques, in my ongoing experiment i saw that the content by softwares or with bad grammar is penalized, have a lot of problems in indexing and even if i gets indexed, google don't cache it or don't let it get good serps)

    I was thinking to create an e-book will all info (I have huge info) and a guide with day wise schedule like do this in day one and second and third and so on... But don't get much time. I do a lot of experiments and takes risks to let you guys know more about seo, to refine my skills and be familiar with all the latest changes in Google's tactics. Hopefully you will see my E-Book on SEO in marketplace (Note: I have not started working on it).

    Have a nice day and feel free to add more info here :)
    You can also ask me questions to clarify your doubts. Recently i saw some of guys giving me negative reps! I don't know what problem they have, this is what i can see -
    "shut the hell up, bitch" for this post - http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...ll-help-you-free-post1526112.html#post1526112
    "you suck!" for the same post and there are some other negative reps too! Everyone have the right to express their views but kindly let me know about the problem which you have with me so i can fix that.
     
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  2. colombiano

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    Well, this is also false. Webmaster tools does not show all baclinks either. I can see more baclinks in Yahoo Site Explorer than in Webmaster Tools
     
  3. varundbest

    varundbest Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Dude i am talking about backlinks indexed in google! All the backlinks which are indexed by google will appear in webmaster tools and google don't index all backlinks.
     
  4. colombiano

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    Again, I think that google does not show all the links that they index, not even in webmaster tools. This is not a fact, it's just something I have experienced and I have read about it in blogs and forums.
     
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    varundbest Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    It is not correct mate.
     
  6. BlackHatSoda

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    Good list.

    6) Google dont know about my backlinks if they don't appear when i search link:mysite.tld.

    It's been stated before (even by Google) that the link: command simply shows a sample of backlinks and not in any specific order. Just because a link shows up there doesn't mean it's passing any PR or that it's not.

    Webmaster tools is also not an accurate count. I've seen on many accounts where the number of backlinks in webmaster tools was less than the number of links I had sending me traffic from Google according to Google Analytics. If the links weren't indexed, they couldn't have been showing in Google search results to pass traffic.

    At any rate, the number of backlinks doesn't really matter. There was a presentation done by Google engineers a while back showing an example of a site that had like 2,000 backlinks in their index but only like 3 were actually being factored in for PR. So quality and relevancy of links is the biggest factor. Keep in mind that just because Google keeps note of a backlink in it's index doesn't mean it's passing PR or, more importantly, helping you rank for the anchor text.

    Just my $.02
     
  7. varundbest

    varundbest Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Dude! google dont index/approve every link it sees, okay! Like if i post a link to any site here on bhw and it dont get indexed by google, won't you guys visit it? Dude, sorry to say but that was a total stupid reply!
     
  8. varundbest

    varundbest Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Any replies??
     
  9. Dangazzm

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    I think the G does some things behind closed doors, you might be onto something with the webmaster tools showing ALL backlinks... however I have A LOT more than its showing there in Yah00's explorer so its one of the mysteries of life.

    We could sit here and debate all day long but we wouldn't be doing the most important thing in life... making money.

    Fact of the matter is SEO is PRETTY MUCH all theory anyways, just my 2 cents there too.

    But good guidelines I find myself using as well so thank you for putting it up here :p
     
  10. spaceinvader

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    in my, (admittedly limited) experience PR makes no sense at all, i have several blogs with 100% unique content with pr0, and i have auto blogs with 100% duplicate content at PR 3.

    PR is something i dont think about for my sites, or i would go insane! ;)

    I have also had websites i have made, promoted and given up on. Then time seems to bring them up the ranks, even if its an old domain it does seem to be the time its indexed that matters.

     
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  11. varundbest

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    bing only have indexed my 97 pages so does it means i only have 97? Google dont index all backlinks and yahoo does (not all but more than google) some of our backlinks gets unseen.
     
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    Note to all newbies: Believe nothing you read or hear and only half of what you see. You must test things out for yourself. Its the only way to be even kinda sure sure.
    Philgood
     
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  13. Dangazzm

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    I agree, I use Yah00 site explorer to get a rough estimation of my backlinks but what I have noticed is G seems to show like a 1:5 ratio of my REAL backlinks... I have wondered why this is before but it takes too much time to try and figure it out if it's even possible, and time is money :p

    All in all, backlinks not showing up? Don't worry about it, the only thing that matters is webmaster tools easily shows you a slew of phrases that you actually rank for build links with those so you can move up to top!
     
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    I am sorry but nofollow links are completely useless for SEO - anchor or no anchor. This is not opinion. This is fact.

    One other small niggle on domain age - I have blasted new sites with spam backlinks and they have been fine. I have also done just some light spam on a site which was 5 years old and it dropped in rank almost straight away. Therefore, it's impossible to have a rule about domain age in this way.

    As for your other points, they are pretty much true in the simplest sense. However, these axioms cannot be relied upon as you go deeper into blackhat.
     
  15. bluet

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    What an interesting post!
    Here's my opinion so far:
    1.I believe nofolow links is not useless, but the value for me is much less than do-follow link
    2.duplicated content is not useless, cause in the google will count the backlinks. However i agree that original article gain more benefits
    3.domain age doesnt matter. I have seen too many sites with new domain and zero PR, making big in google top ten
     
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  16. detox1978

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    If you're going to post something like this please add what experiments you have done, or back up your statements with facts.

    That way you are adding something to the existing posts on the subject, rehashing old sh*t is pointless, which just clogs up the search function.
     
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    I started this site about 2 weeks ago. I am ranking first page for many terms already and my alexa is already almost at 3 mill.

    That is the power of seo, kids. PM me for any advice. Please no stupid questions.
     
  18. varundbest

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    So instead of learning science from school you will become a scientist and start from inventing a wheel? It is a good idea to do our own experiments but considering old theories is also important! Don't believe everyone but consider everything.
     
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    Thanks for adding more information :)
     
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    your such an idiot - what moronic facts do you base this on - have you tested?

    I have and seen the opposite - all they dont do is pass pagerank directly