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Some findings from 'stacking' AMR blasts

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Ranko Jones, Jun 7, 2011.

  1. Ranko Jones

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    This is pretty interesting as I was skeptical it would have any noticeable effect...

    I had done an AMR blast a few weeks ago to my money site for a 1k exact keyword. That and some other things such as SB blasts had me stuck for a week or more near the top of 4th page. Actually after the initial AMR blast I think I crept to bottom of 3rd then soon after got stuck at around 3rd from top on 4th which I didn't seem to budge even though I had been SB blasting round the clock.

    So yesterday I thought I'd try another AMR blast but to the 1st AMR tier making it a 2nd AMR tier. I took all the livelinks from the 1st blast and spintax'd them into the new article and blasted away.

    I did that yesterday not expecting much but today to my pleasant surprise I see I've moved from around 3 from top on 4th to three up from the bottom on the 3rd. So a 6 slot jump which is I think is sweet considering I was having trouble getting any movement before.

    I want to keep testing this stacking principle and see how much juice I can get out of doing this before it becomes diminishing returns.

    Maybe I'll do a garbage auto spin today with the same article and reblast to 2nd tier.

    One good thing I was thinking about the linking structure is due to the spintax the linking is gonna be random of which article leads to which so I am guessing that produces some sort of diversity in the pattern to aid in the juice.
     
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  2. Abstroose

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    Interesting results. I was thinking about doing something like this, but on a huge scale for a case study. I.E. Money site <- 5 spun PLR articles <- 10 spun PLR articles <- 50 spun PLR articles.

    Did you use spun unique articles, or non-unique?
     
  3. 229tom

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    Was considering doing this myself as well, anyone else have done something like this with similar results?
     
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    What does PLR mean again? I just read it means private label? but what does that mean...just bought articles?

    I'm actually experimenting with spun and non spun.

    I have used non spun articles and spun articles for my 1st run and it seems to produce the same initial serp gains.

    I am gonna do a couple blasts today on diff keywords. So one I'll try with one auto spun article and blast the other I'll try with 10 or more auto spun.

    I'm also interested to see how many junk spun articles get approved; not only approved but stick. If it's alot that will save considerable time blasting to these lower tiers. I was conscious about blasting junk articles to higher tiers but doesn't matter so much lower down; similar to Sb blasts. Maybe I'll make a new account for junk articles to be safe as I wouldn't want my other accounts banned which have alot of articles already up- or do the articles stay up even if you're banned?
     
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    The only thing you're missing is Xrumer :).
     
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    But will it really pass that much of juice? It will be really interesting to see the results. My normal AMR run submits to about ~1050 Article Directories out of which I get about 250-300 live links (auto approved ones). So considering this case if we make links in this structure as you said: money site <- 5 <- 10 <- 50, these 1k directories will point to each other in the pyramid structure it won't get much diversity. But again all these will be links from article directories with related content it might pass on some good juice. Will definitely be a very good case study.
     
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    Fcvuker. Just checked my serps again and I have been slugged back to the 4th page only one position from where I was before :(. hoping it's a dance...

    Time for another blast!

    As for xrumer I am supplementing that with AA blogs instead. I have been considering xrumer blasting which I will do at some point but wanna test AMR out for now in relative isolation.
     
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    I have a different strategy of using AMR.

    1. Blast the moneysite with AMR blast.
    2. Ping the livelinks you get. I get about 400-500 per random blast with a one-click spin using TBS. Can get better results with a better spun article.
    2. Create a small 15-20 linkwheel for the moneysite, to be used as buffer sites.
    3. Write a few ezine articles or other high PR properties to use as buffer sites.
    4. beat the shi* out of AMR blast with SB comments. Helps in indexing the links.
    5. Blast the web 2.0 properties,ezine articles etc with another AMR blast and a set of SB comments.

    I noticed a keyword jump over 200 ranks to land in the 4th page thanks to this strategy. Now working slowly on pushing it every few ranks.
     
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    Is AMR still very effective?
     
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    Just did the same test as OP have done, blasted in 2 levels .
    Tested 3 keywords , the first blast of 120live links budget all 3 keyword from places 15-30.
    And now blasted the 25links which were already indexed from 120 with another 200live links using AMR - will see if anything happens!
     
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    How many exact were the ones you saw land from 200 to 4th?

    Would help get an idea of what we are working with since mine is 1k for the one in question in the OP.

    How bout you 229tom?
     
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    Watch this thread and find out real-time! :D

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    Oh yes and to update I currently have another blast running right this moment as a second AMR layer for an 8k exact which I'm also on bottom of page 5 for. Hmm I wasn't used to checking this one and think I was on page 6 before I began blasting it when I checked this morning. I usually only takes a few minutes to an hour to see most gains from my AMR blasts i notice- I find I don't get many if any more approvals past the initial 250-400 initial AA links...I wonder why that is.

    That one is finished now, I'm just getting the livelinks...I'll do a 3rd tier blast on the OP blast in a few after I set an SB blast running on this other one.
     
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  13. 229tom

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    I only did a quick test with already indexed pages-keywords , didn't looked much at competition or searches- want to see only if this works or not!
     
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    Yes but you should still easily know how many exact searches they get by taking a peek in adwords?

    I think I might leave the 1st one alone for today to see if it moves up again (though I doubt it will cos I find usually when my serps start falling they keep falling if I don't take more action but wanna keep it relatively scientific) and if not then blast again tomorrow.

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    Woohoo...looks like it was a dance after all. I'm back to the position I was before on 3rd page for the original kw and gone up one place to second from the bottom on 5th page with the second kw.
     
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    Well it's a pretty competitive keyword, which has about 18k blobal searches. I'm lingering around the 26th-30th rank for a week. Pushing hard on tier 2 blasting off late than on the money site.
     
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    never mind this post...wrote something asking what global was but just checked adwords and see now.

    Ye in that case 18k is a good one for testing if you get any movement from experiments as we'll surely know it is some good sauce.
     
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    3rd layer just gone through now and set an SB blast running on it.
     
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    Gonna scrap these experiments now I think as they seem to be providing negligible results.
     
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