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sold something on CL, now next day buyer is threatening to go to cops

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by dakota5369, Oct 29, 2011.

  1. dakota5369

    dakota5369 Regular Member

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    i sold something off of craigslist (vero item, doesnt matter what it is). i get a call the next day from the guy saying it is fake. to the best of my knowledge it is real. however, there is a possibility it isnt. i wont discount that. he wants to get his money back but i wasnt anywhere near home when he called. i tell him i will be home later and would contact him. 10 minutes later he texts me and asks when i am gonna give him his money back so he knows whether or not to go to metro. this got me thinking, how do i know he didnt buy mine and then try to give me back fakes?

    i dont want to mess with cops, but is that even something he can do? i would think a cop would tell him he needs to prove he bought it form me. i dont know, i am up in the air about this. would the cops touch it?
     
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    "Doesn't matter what it is" oh yes it does.
    If it's a fake picture of something or a fake signed sports jersey / memorabilia there is a BIG difference.

    There is proof unless it was paid in cash I believe. Cash or paypal or however.
     
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    To the best of my knowledge, the guy is full of it. The cops will not prosecute you because you exchanged a physical product for an agreed upon price. Unless there is something written (including email or text) that clearly states that the good is guaranteed real, he has no case. Hopefully Metro has better things to do then to deal with this clown.

    No worries and Good Luck!

    Sorry, the only additional factor that may play in is the amount of money exchanged.
     
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    ..NICE GUY RESPONSE: give him his money back

    ..REGULAR GUY RESPONSE: "bite me it is real and you bought it, so no refunds".

    What kind of $$ are we talking about?

    JQ
     
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    Moved to the lounge. Please watch the categories.
     
  6. dakota5369

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    it was sold for $200. also the guy inspected the box, opened it and inspected the contents, then tried the product before leaving. he paid in cash. thats what makes me think he might be jerking me and why i am thinking about not taking it back. he seemed knowledgeable on the product and he paid me after he tried it.
     
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    You gave him the opportunity to check the item and he has paid for the item he had in his hands... so tell him to go f*ck himself.
     
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    this guy is a nut job. his first call to me was about an hour ago. i told him i wasnt home and i would call him back later. he has texted me 4 times in the last hour and now just said 15 minutes and he is going to the station to file a report. wow. good thing i met him at a neutral location. you think the cops will make a call or something to me to at least check it out?
     
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    was the item bran new out of never b4 opened box, if he can prove its fake and you can regocnize the item being one he bought from some minor detail about it?

    Also he might be bluffing, hope you don't have too much to hide from cops at your house.
     
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    jazzc Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    He 's trying to scam you, keep your cool and you 'll be fine.
     
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    I'm not a lawyer, but I highly doubt the cops would get involved here. If anything, if you're in the United States, this sounds like something that would be more appropriate to handle in court. Meaning he would have to file a lawsuit most likely. But even if it went that route, I don't see him winning because he inspected everything and then paid for it. It is his fault for not inspecting further before paying.

    Now, YOU can get the cops involved and file a complaint against HIM if he keeps harassing you with these phone calls and texts. That is the only way I see the cops getting involved in this mess.
     
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    The cops will normally not get involved in a deal like this. It is a civil matter and nothing more small claims at best. Just explain that you've attempted to be reasonable with him but his threats and harassment will be filed with the police if he decides to continue. Then ask him which he thinks will get more attention ;)

    Regardless of the item the cops will probably say "you bought it from a guy on the internet, you're an idiot" and be done with it.
     
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    Its not like you sold him a brick painted to look like an Ipad here, tell him to pound sand -- or if your nice give it back its money!
     
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    If I were you I'd send him a txt saying something along the lines of "You inspected the item before paying and YOU SAW it was not a fake so F OFF or I'll go to the police and file a report about you harassing me with phone calls and text messages."

    This should get him to back off if he is really trying to scam you.
     
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    How could he open the box, test the product and then pay, but then somehow determine it was fake after he got home. I think he's bluffing and or trying to screw you over. I'd send him one long text saying something along the lines of:

    "You open the box, inspected the product and tested it and then paid. The item is not fake and I do not issue refunds. If you want to take it to the cops, go right ahead, but it's a waste of your time considering you saw and test the item before purchasing."
     
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    i agree with those who said it is a court matter when i think about it. basically, he is saying he was given something that was not as advertised. that would be a court matter. if i took his money and ran, that would be a crime. its similar to what happened to me recently where i got screwed.

    i bought a pallet of microwaves from a guy at an auction place. i could only take half and when i came back for the rest, there was one missing. the guy new it too, but told me i shouldnt have left them there. so when i loaded up the other microwaves, i just packed up his hand truck to make it even. he found out by watching tape and called me. i said we could trade. he called the cops.

    cops told me that my taking the hand truck was theft, and what he did was a court issue. so i could be arrested, but could just take him to court. i had to eat it and give him it back. same thing applies. i "stole" his hand truck, but i didnt get what was advertised in the pallet that i paid for
     
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    he said he determined it was fake by taking it to the store and the people told him it was. the thing is, before he bought it he was at that same store studying up on it.
     
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    I actually agree with the other guy on this one though. If you left them sitting there and someone else stole it off the pallet, that's not his fault. After purchasing it, it's your responsibility then, not his. I doubt he was the one who stole it either.
     
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    Legally speaking, your defense is much stronger than his case. If you aren't worried about being stabbed or something, I would just ignore him. But if he seems like someone who might stab you over it, refund him. In cases like this, physical violence is much more of a real threat then the cops. He has WAY too much to prove to win a case and it won't be something you can go to jail for, unless you have stockpiles of these items and they ARE in fact replicas.
     
  20. dakota5369

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    well, its a longer story. actually it was his guy. i saw him walking off with it because he did it right when i got there. when the employee came back i told him and the owner. they then pretended they couldnt find it. also, it was his employees that put the others there, not me. i also asked him to look at the videos which he refused to do. hard to explain in writing, but it was not in doubt whether or not they took it.