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Sold my Ebay and PayPal account and got scammed. Need advice pls!

Discussion in 'Ebay' started by Vic1807, Nov 3, 2016.

  1. Vic1807

    Vic1807 Newbie

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    Hi, ive been trying to find advice about this on the Internet but have had no luck, so I am hoping someone here can help me. A year ago I decided to sell both my Ebay and PayPal accounts after seeing a page on Facebook for a company that buys them. I contacted them and was assured everything was legal and all details would be changed on the accounts if I sold them. I agreed and was paid £500 for both. The buyer then sold the account on to another guy. He started selling on there and all looked ok. Recently my mums eBay account was restricted because of the association with my old account. When I checked the eBay account has become an unregistered user account and the PayPal account is in £4000 debt. The guy I sold it too has been no help. Told me to ring PayPal and explain and it would all be ok. When I checked paypals user agreement I realised I cannot do that. Because if I have willingly let someone else use my account I am worried I will be responsible for the debt. I am an honest person and would rather tell the truth. But I am also self employed. If I am held accountable for the debt would i have to pay tax on it too? I recieve working tax credits which im worried would stop if they investigate me? And in the future if I have to declare that money I wouldn't be entitled to any tax credits, which as a self employed single mother of twins, I do unfortunately rely on. I dont earn very much from self employment and certainly dont have this kind of money to repay. So should I lie, and say ive been hacked. Or should I tell the truth and tell them all I know so these people may finally get a bit of karma. Any advice would be very much appreciated. Thanks.
     
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    Sorry about your situation! It appears to me you need to contact an attorney for advice!
     
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  3. toml3030

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    This is why I tell people to never sell paypal/eBay accounts with their real info attached.
     
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    Sold your real ebay and paypal account ? Really ? or you are trolling ?

    First thing £4000 is not small amount, be ready to pay it or run from that country to somewhere else. There is no other way if that's your real paypal with real information. You are not allowed to sell your ebay and paypal account according to both sites, So forget about legal help.
     
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    Sigh... I don't even know how to react to this. Are you naive or just stupid? What in the world would motivate you to sell your money account (Paypal) in the first place?

    There is no legal recourse to this, if they hand over your debt to a collection agency, a lot can happen. Depending on who was scammed, this can lead to a full blown wire-fraud investigation against you.

    So the only solution is to pay up. And/or take action against the buyer. You cannot even claim plausible deniability in this case, since you wilingly sold the account, despite having accepted the ToS when you signed up.

    P.S - I hope to god, I am not talking to a bot.
     
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    If you ring them up and tell the truth ie you sold the accounts, there's nothing stopping them putting all this in your court and sending in debt collectors to get payment.
    Go seek CAB advice.
     
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  7. oatmeal

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    I'm just curious, for learning pointers.....what if she claims she was hacked?
     
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    Depends on the final outcome.
    Claim you were hacked, maybe the police get involved too.
    IF they catch the supposed hackers, and they then hand over proof she sold the account, you're looking at being charged by the police.
    So not only are you out of pocket but you'll have a criminal record and a credit history that will mean you'll struggle to be able to borrow.
     
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  9. oatmeal

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    I didn't know this either....it sounded like a lot of people on here and elsewhere are always selling ebay/paypal accounts.....
     
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    Just 2 things.
    Don't pay and they can't do a thing to you - Telling you from personal experience.
    2nd thing, tell them it's been hacked way back and you have no knowledge about it.

    Everything will be super easy.
     
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    Who the fuck sells their real PayPal account?
     
  12. Kalle9

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    You are accountable for the debt. I don't even know if you could try and claim you were hacked. How did you tell everything was going ok? Was your email still on both accounts? I am assuming for at least the paypal it was otherwise how would you of gained access again. Were you getting emails this whole time about the activities on the accounts? You are going to have to be super convincing to even try it, $4000 is a lot. They will want to recover their money so they will investigate.

    I had my paypal account stuck in the negative for a while due to some mishaps. It just stayed that way for a year until I paid it but it was a much smaller amount. You are going to have zero access to paypal ever again if you don't pay it off. You may be able to convince Ebay and Paypal that your moms account is totally separate. She will probably have to provide documentation of her identify.
     
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  13. Vic1807

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    Thanks yes I am gullible naive and stupid. The reason I did it was because I was financially struggling. I knew at the time the possible implications but was assured every step of the way this would all be legal. If it is not legal how can they get away with it and having Facebook pages and company websites with registered company numbers. I have all the details of the guy I originally sold it to. And I know he is still in contact with the buyer although he denied it.
     
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    Why not go down to the local nick and have a word with them, saying you think a fraud has been committed and they're using your details. If you do that though you need to be honest with the police from the start and secondly watch your back in case of any backlash.
     
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    But then she would have to explain how $50K worth of merchandise mysteriously went through her account before she discovered it.
     
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    "I was assured every step of the way this would all be legal."

    Wouldn't be a very good conman if they said "nope, this is totally illegal and you're going to get butt fecked" - what did you expect them to say to you? - They'd say the same thing if it was or wasn't legal.

    "If it is not legal how can they get away with it"

    Using false names, addresses, living in countries that just don't care, knowing Paypal won't spend $40,000 of their own money to recover $4000 when they can just come after you for it instead?

    "and having Facebook pages"

    So what - takes 5 minutes to set up?

    "and company websites"

    So what - takes 5 minutes to set up?

    "with registered company numbers."

    Are they real? Did you check? What country are they in?

    Even if they are legit and in the US or UK they will simply claim they acted as a middle man and didn't do anything wrong.

    The person they sold it to did, and so did you, all they did was facilitate the trade between you - they won't get into 1 jot of trouble at all.
     
  17. Vic1807

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    Yes it is a real company. The fb page has been going for years and has lots of positive reviews from sellers and questions from buyers ect. He isnt the only buyer and I am not the only seller. Its going on all over the world. I just dont understand how they can get away with it. They are basically facilitating fraud. I am sure he and the buyer are in it together. Why are these companies still up and running and not shut down.
     
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    Share the link to the page here.
     
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    The first defense against being defrauded is you. I don't understand how you ever thought this was a good idea. I mean even if the buyer acts in good faith, the taxes due are your responsibility since you are the person of record for that account.
     
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  20. ttmschine

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    I don't know if you've ever thought of this but reviews could be **EEK** fake?

    Maybe he's also buying old Facebook accounts, LoL - have you got one of those you could sell him.

    Also, I'm willing to give you £50 each for any credit cards you have, and up to £100 per bank account so long as there's money in them and an overdraft facility.

    Sorry, don't mean to sound mean, but you've really got no one to blame but yourself - you even said above you knew it could be a really bad idea - but did it anyway.