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Socialism and smuggling

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by Roparadise, Oct 7, 2011.

  1. Roparadise

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    Is there any good books about smuggling during the cold war? I heard that there were people that were making money smuggling goods into the USSR and eastern bloc nations.
     
  2. Jonny Quick

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    All I ever remember hearing about was Christians smuggling in Bibles. I think Gorky Park was about exporting mink. And I think Beluga caviar was a hot item to export.

    Do you mean fiction, or non-fiction? What's your focus? Are you thinking about marketing now-legal stuff in the former Soviet Republics, and are wondering what was hot when it was illegal, in order to see what they'd be willing to purchase now?
     
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    You can buy cheap cigarettes in the Ukraine and smuggle them into Romania
    Romanians are heavy smokers, and prices have trebled in the last 2 years.

    People smuggling I heard has always been pretty lucrative, So I suppose it still is.
    and of course there is always drugs..
    Have you given up on the idea of investing in the Romanian stock market.

    Though to be honest,
    I dont know why you would be asking this questions on a blackhat forum.
    Sure, you could google it
    and get some answers.
     
  4. Silverion

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    Socialism and smuggling are counterparts.If you are a socially responsible guy then you would never do something of this sort.Smugglers do it for their own sake,to make their life more convenient by not putting any extra effort.If you achieve something so easily then you will not find the thing that much good.You should work hard enough to reach there and compete with people.This is the real motto of a socially responsible person
     
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    I do not agree. Sometimes easy wealth brings lots of joy.
     
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    Easy wealth brings lots of joy temporarily.If you want contentment in life you need to work proficiently not by shortcuts cause it can make your mind unstable.
     
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    So, if you had $1.000.000.000.000 tomorrow by lottery, you would not find a way to be content... right! :D

    This is just an excuse for not making lots of money.
     
  9. Roparadise

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    I did google it and I only found out about human trafficking,and the bibles. I need information about smuggling goods,in case the u.s. Has a revolution and becomes socialist.
     
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    lol well, eastern european countries has traditions in smuggling or how to say that... For example from my country close to the border people still smuggling gas from ukraine, since its a lot cheaper.
    Before 89 people was smuggling anything you can imagine, from fridges to clothes or 'western' food from BRD ( Western Deutchland).
    Those people who had jobs that somehow related to travel (truck drivers etc), made a lot of money, and built a house in 2 month of their earnings from buying stuff in BRD and bringing them to eastern countries.

    I remember when i was kid, everyone brought home a lot of video casettes, and the fun was that all was only german speaking.
    And the movies later was home 'dubbed', means one guy was speaking under the movies for ALL people. That is some funny shit.
    Imagine Alien I, or Predator with one single guy speaking along the full movie :D

    But to find written stuff about it..i have no idea.
     
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    you understand of course this will never happens right ? like us being socialist ...
     
  12. drac313

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    It only makes sense that heavy snuggling went on. The USSR was a communist nation that had a low production compared to other nation of its size. The ability for people to get goods they wanted were limited by the restrictions the Soviets put on them, so it is only fair to say that they got some things via the blackmarket and smuggling.
     
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    If the conditions are right it could happen to the u.s.
     
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    nah, US is not just any random democracy, they are also forcing/helping other countries in the world to embrace democracy, like Afghanistan and Libya.
     
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    :rolleyes:

    As people get more and more anger toward the top 1% the likely hood of a revolution becomes more likely. Right now it is peaceful protests,but just one spark could turn it into a riot.

    I am not saying it will happen but the people seem very angry,so its best to be prepared. Imagine if you were living in the Russian Federation around 1900 and had the understanding that a revolution could be coming in 17 years and you prepared for it,by making contacts overseas,and getting safe houses etc.
     
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    QFT. Americans have the false belief in our intrinsic "goodness". When times get tough we will fight for every scrap like anyone else.

    Also consider the lack of public sympathy for Wall Street.

    If they burned the whole thing to the ground, would anyone care? Would there be outrage at the perpetrators, and a hue and cry for justice?

    Personally, I hope they do burn it down. It will be entertaining to watch while eating popcorn on the couch, and won't affect my life in the least. Nor, I think, most other people's.

    We have this false belief that certain things are "too big to fail". Anyone ever wake up sobbing in the middle of the night, for those poor, long-lost twin towers? I haven't. In fact, if the media didn't constantly remind me of that event, I would have forgotten all about it years ago. Just like all of you forgot about George Bush's promise that we would send a manned space mission to Mars.

    The reason why you don't remember that is because it does not serve the corporatocracies' interests to remind you, but keeping the burner on full-simmer over the 9/11 attacks DOES serve their interests, and that's why you all care about it.

    And I don't. I care about myself, and those around me. And regard most of you and your delusional beliefs about "social conscience" and "right & wrong" as a direct threat to my economic security.
     
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    I am against what those whiners are doing,but if they did cause a socialist revolution, I don't want to lose everything. And I still want to make money after it if it does happen.
     
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    I think it is wise to consider the possiblity of a "socialist revolution", because they do use times of economic stress to further their agenda. However, as a person that identifies with the Tea Party, I can find strong justifications for attempting a revolutionary effort, but with the exact opposite planned outcome. And we have guns and they would prefer to "make love with their faces".

    The solution to "too much bad government" is not "even more bad government", and that is why this current "anti-Wall Street" effort is doomed to failure. These meandering 20-something's have nothing substantive to offer other than regurgitated 1960's rhetoric, with a sprinkling of Global Warming for texture. These are the complainers, the whiners, and they would be first in line to get on the dole, if somehow they could find something truly wrong with themselves that would allow them a free ride, and they would be the last to get off the dole, as nurtured and loved on the tit of the American Government is the end-point of their aspirations and the greatest achievement they can imagine for themselves.

    So, my thought is that if a second revolution does happen to come to the United States, there's more money to be made by selling arms & ammunition to the right wing, rather than placards and condoms to the left.
     
  19. drac313

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    The socialist and liberal elite in America have decided years ago that they knew what was right for America, and it was that everyone should have a home. This resulted in the mortgage bubble, which stemmed from the Feds saying that "we got your back". Suddenly all the rich men on Wall Street turned into Democrats, because, in exchange for allowing banks to leverage 50:1 they had to give out loans to poor people who couldn't afford them or risk prosecution labeling them racists. It is a vicious socialist agenda of narcissism, social engineering, and entitlement that may give way to a fascism like in Europe during the 30's and 40's.
     
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    Lets try to keep the political debate out of this thread,and go back to the economics of what we could do to make money in case the U.S. falls apart and becomes socialist.
    During prohibition Al capone was making $60 million a year,which is about $756 million a year in today money.So there is alot of money to be made in providing things to people that they cannot get because of laws. In a socialist nation there will be resistance group that need things to help them fight against the oppressive government,so one could provide encrypted phones,and special computers that help keep people more anonymous.

    After Romania became a socialist nation in the late 1940's there were resistance fighters up until 1962,Another example is the Maquis in France during WW2 that fought against the nazi's.