So, what's the truth about PageRank?

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by tpaolo, Jul 29, 2011.

  1. tpaolo

    tpaolo Regular Member

    May 28, 2009
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    Has anyone the truth answer to the real value of Pagerank in Google rankings?

    I own a PR5 site but I see it's not relevant to get quality traffic, other sites rank better with some words having lower PR.

    Also, when looking for links exchange, most webmasters don't care about it, they count it a 1 link, yes with some quality, but as 1 link at the end.

    Pls share with me some useful thinkings, thanks.
  2. hoodkist

    hoodkist Regular Member

    Jun 20, 2011
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    Backlinks with keywords as anchor text is loved by google check out adobes click here. The truth about pr is it does matter to sone extent think of pr as how much truth your site holds so if you would to blast your site with spam links you will rank better now since google trusts you. Your site technically carries more weight. But if xompeterors are spamming anchor text key words then there ranking higher then you. Download all your competitors links and run them through scrape box free link checker separate program then scrapebox and use the keywords all it takes is a little back engineering to see how they rank.
  3. danedral

    danedral Newbie

    Dec 20, 2008
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    also keep your site little more active, maybe to add some new quality contents and boost your keywords little more with it.
  4. mongorock

    mongorock Registered Member

    Apr 28, 2010
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    google also looks for importance of the links ie if they come from social networks. Google views that as having weight especially if loads of people are talking about whatever link on social networks...
  5. johnnyd77

    johnnyd77 Senior Member

    May 6, 2011
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    High PR is good for backlinking mainly.

    From my experience, its not always the best PR who grab the best spot in search engine
  6. aftershock2020

    aftershock2020 Senior Member

    Oct 19, 2007
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    PR is strictly for backlinking and the specific search engine's personal, internal credibility ranking system. It absolutely helps you pull rank juice faster where something new being posted and appearing in the results is concerned, as you have more social pull the higher your PR number is within that search engine but, across the board, it is pretty much just a status marker.

    It only helps your association of content hitting the system due to the given search engine putting you on a higher, more frequently spidered list of sites, where other, younger, less respected sites may not have the same level of respect yet.

    Depends on your social marketing game...are you about sales and pushing buyer traffic or are you about socializing and keeping people on your page...more importantly, are you about ' information content ' that the people are checking out?

    It is a fine line and you have to get the right mix. It's like mentos in know if you shake the bottle too much, everyone is going to get soaked in the end.
  7. matei

    matei Junior Member

    Feb 24, 2011
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    Correct. I have a PR0 sports news site and if i take care a little at my articles, i outrank some bigger sites with bigger PRs. As you may have heard around here, content is the king.
    Keep your articles at a minimum of 500 words, and have a nice SEO on page and you should beat other sites with bigger PR. My 2 cents.
  8. Roberto M

    Roberto M Newbie

    Jul 5, 2011
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    It seems to me that over the last few years it's becoming more common all the time for lower page ranks to outrank higher page ranks in SERPs?

    My guess is that page ranks mean less and less to Google. Also the last two page rank updates were 10 months apart, weren't they? So it looks like maybe they consider them less urgent as well as less important, too?
  9. scourforce

    scourforce Junior Member

    Mar 10, 2011
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    I agree with everyone on here. PR is more about the back links, but having relevant content and good keywords will help with any rankings.
  10. natorob

    natorob Junior Member

    Jul 7, 2011
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    I've read somewhere that PR is not that big of a deal anymore. I agree with most; good content, 500 words min, and on page SEO is the answer.
  11. belgirl

    belgirl Regular Member

    Nov 2, 2009
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    Agree with the previous poster. I believe Matt Cutts from Google even came out and said that PR is not as important anymore--I even thought at one point the rumor was they were doing away with all together. Can anyone confirm this?
  12. enderz

    enderz Regular Member

    May 9, 2010
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    PR is a rough measure. If you can test a site you can test several patameters to discover how quality the site is. BUT, if you need to answer in 3 seconds how quality the site is the only parameter that will answer that is the PR.

    Its like someones title. When you hear someone is a PHd, lawyer, physician you automatically contribute him with high qualities, but if you'll take/have the time to ask few questions you'll discover if its true, one of the important questions would be:
    1. PHd in what field?
    2. Where did you get your Phd from?

    Same with PR, PR5 is nice but if I have the time I'd like to know:
    1. What is the site about? How good is its content?
    2. Who are the sites linking to it that made his PR to become 5?

    So, bottom line is, it all depends what you need it for, if its for link exchange many times you don't have the time to test every offer so you go for the PR.
  13. TNphoneman

    TNphoneman Senior Member

    Dec 15, 2010
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    PR means absolutely nothing to me and I will give you an example.

    I have a site that is 8 months old and just got bumped to PR1. for my main keyword I am sitting at #1. There is 1-PR0 2-PR1 2-PR2 3-PR3 and 1-PR4 on the front page. The age of the domains range from 2-14 years in age with 6 of them being 10 years old or older. I rank above all of them even the ones with 3x the amount of links.

    The answer... Content.

    I don't worry about anything but content, getting the link and this includes ******** and nofollow etc.