so what now? how do you actually make money?

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PBNSurprise

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been trying hardcore since june 2020, been failing for 3 months straight lol

site after site, fail, fail fail. break even, non profitable, no sales at all, non profitable. it's like a cycle

i just can't catch a break. i'm destined to fail. i still like doing internet marketing though, as just a hobby. even if i can't sell anything. i like setting up the conversion tracking as if i'm going to get sales, but in reality i just get nothing hahah

what to do now?
 
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bossofthebosses said:
and I am trying from 2010, made a lot of $ - lost all of it 3-4 times, now I am back to 0 and trying again :) thats what life is.
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yeah bro lol i started in 2015. failing ever since. had some success here and there, nothing long lasting though

i guess that's just reality, it's tough but what can you do. i literally have $20k USD that i'm ready to invest at the drop of the hat if i can guarantee a return on investment. i don't even mind paying someone significant amounts of money if they will ACTUALLY coach me and help me profit consistently. the problem is almost every guru or teacher out there is a scam that just wants your money, so you can't even trust them
 
PBNSurprise said:
what to do now?
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try harder.

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Life cycle, but overall try to manage your finances and keep going.
 
I get 20-30% success in the total number of projects. In the end, I think my profit margins are low because of reinvesting, but I am a "hustler", not an internet marketer. :cool: Joking, keep your head up, stop doing what 95% of the internet does and you will have success for sure.
 
PBNSurprise said:
been trying hardcore since june 2020, been failing for 3 months straight lol

site after site, fail, fail fail. break even, non profitable, no sales at all, non profitable. it's like a cycle

i just can't catch a break. i'm destined to fail. i still like doing internet marketing though, as just a hobby. even if i can't sell anything. i like setting up the conversion tracking as if i'm going to get sales, but in reality i just get nothing hahah

what to do now?
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That's all this is about. A series of experiments. Most fail, but that one experiment that works, it makes it all worthwhile.

Take a short vacation. Then get back to the grind. With refreshed energy.

And try something different this time. You seem to be doing it all by yourself. This is the time, to seek out experts, ask for help, do JVs, collaborate. Your strength + someone else's power = bank.

Take a break, but don't give up.
 
I think you should try something different than internet marketing. Like launch an offline business just to make your cash flow straight, then start the IM anew with all kind of tweaking and experimenting.
I am also in a fail mode now, but I am putting my feet in several boats, though it's highly non recommended by experts. But I just want at least one boat to make it's destination. Luckily in every venture, both online and offline, I have my real life partners in business who are very dedicated and keeps motivating me when I am floating on debt and all kind of crisis.
 
Everything depends from you.
You know yourself better then anyone else.
You know what is the thing that you're good at. You should pursue your goals in that direction.

For example I'm very good at Facebook, marketing, traffic, ads, etc, everything related to Facebook. So I go all in with Fb and work with it.

If i try twitter I'll fail, no matter how many times i work with it.

Find that one thing that you're very good at and start from there.

Don't take me wrong, you shouldn't keep all your eggs in one basket, you should diversify, but only after you're making enough money with the method you're very good with.

Cheers
 
stepdub said:
That's all this is about. A series of experiments. Most fail, but that one experiment that works, it makes it all worthwhile.

Take a short vacation. Then get back to the grind. With refreshed energy.

And try something different this time. You seem to be doing it all by yourself. This is the time, to seek out experts, ask for help, do JVs, collaborate. Your strength + someone else's power = bank.

Take a break, but don't give up.
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i've recently been watching dropshipping courses even though most of "gurus" are shady and crap. i didn't pay full price for any of the courses. i don't mind paying for professional help. it's hard to find someone who is trying to legit help you though, instead of just trying to sell you garbage
 
PBNSurprise said:
i've recently been watching dropshipping courses even though most of "gurus" are shady and crap. i didn't pay full price for any of the courses. i don't mind paying for professional help. it's hard to find someone who is trying to legit help you though, instead of just trying to sell you garbage
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What you need right now to keep you in the game is immediate cash flow. I suggest you do some freelancing work on Fiverr / Upwork. Or get freelance projects from BHW.
 
HeRBaR said:
Everything depends from you.
You know yourself better then anyone else.
You know what is the thing that you're good at. You should pursue your goals in that direction.

For example I'm very good at Facebook, marketing, traffic, ads, etc, everything related to Facebook. So I go all in with Fb and work with it.

If i try twitter I'll fail, no matter how many times i work with it.

Find that one thing that you're very good at and start from there.

Don't take me wrong, you shouldn't keep all your eggs in one basket, you should diversify, but only after you're making enough money with the method you're very good with.

Cheers
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i know facebook and google ads. and i've been making a lot of ecommerce stores cause of dropshipping

the products i sell are garbage though. i'm struggling to find products that actually sell, stuff that people will actually buy and i can price at a mark up. most of the time i was testing on facebook, i couldn't even get a single sale for the products i was testing. i'm just having a terrible time finding products to sell. on google ads i sold 1 product and made $1k sales but broke even. i made another 2 stores and made 0 sales on each of them. the 2nd store i was getting a stream of traffic but none of it converts. my products are just garbage, shitty, and unwanted
 
stepdub said:
What you need right now to keep you in the game is immediate cash flow. I suggest you do some freelancing work on Fiverr / Upwork. Or get freelance projects from BHW.
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cash flow is not a problem bro. i'm sitting on $20k+ in savings right now. i'm good with money right now. i have a day job

the problem is, i just can't get this internet marketing crap to work. i have the money. i can buy the resources. i know the theory, back end and front end marketing. i just can't figure this crap out, that's the frustrating part
 
PBNSurprise said:
i know facebook and google ads. and i've been making a lot of ecommerce stores cause of dropshipping

the products i sell are garbage though. i'm struggling to find products that actually sell, stuff that people will actually buy and i can price at a mark up. most of the time i was testing on facebook, i couldn't even get a single sale for the products i was testing. i'm just having a terrible time finding products to sell. on google ads i sold 1 product and made $1k sales but broke even. i made another 2 stores and made 0 sales on each of them. the 2nd store i was getting a stream of traffic but none of it converts. my products are just garbage, shitty, and unwanted
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Try another direction, it may sound counterintuitive but a lot of guys are making lots of money like this.

Try affiliate marketing, not dropshipping, dropshipping is very crowded and needs lot of time to maintain and work.

Try affiliate marketing, or build a website and earn from the ads network.

You can even sell your own service/product but just move away from dropshipping, at least for the moment.

I was once in your position too, with dropshipping, one thing I changed and made it work, was to find the products myself locally and not sourcing them from Aliexpress or China. Was advertising them local only in my country. It worked like charm
 
HeRBaR said:
Try another direction, it may sound counterintuitive but a lot of guys are making lots of money like this.

Try affiliate marketing, not dropshipping, dropshipping is very crowded and needs lot of time to maintain and work.

Try affiliate marketing, or build a website and earn from the ads network.

You can even sell your own service/product but just move away from dropshipping, at least for the moment.

I was once in your position too, with dropshipping, one thing I changed and made it work, was to find the products myself locally and not sourcing them from Aliexpress or China. Was advertising them local only in my country. It worked like charm
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nice, how were you getting traffic?

i tried affiliate marketing with clickbank for a little bit. made like $1k and again just broke even on it. used facebook ads to advertise

i would really like to get away from dropshipping. but at the end of the day i still need a product to sell...
 
The hardest part is always the beginning, if you know already how thing works, why don't you just buy a small site and grow it?
 
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