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So this guy I sold a laptop on CL and he wants to sue me

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by SteamyMcSteam, Mar 16, 2010.

  1. SteamyMcSteam

    SteamyMcSteam Junior Member

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    Ok, so I sold my old laptop to this guy on CL. Let's just say I bought the laptop used and it had Windows 7 loaded on it. I sold it with Windows 7 on it. Now that Win 7 version is not genuine, now this guy keeps on calling and texting me for the disc.

    I sold him the laptop about a month ago, and now it's telling him the software isn't genuine. He wants me to pay $200 for a new copy of Windows. I actually have a genuine windows 7 disc (upgrade) somewhere around here, but I couldn't find it, and I was really busy with school and work and this f'er wouldn't leave me alone, so I googled one and I guess it says the same thing.

    He just left me this long ass voicemail saying he wants me to now pay $100 (half) of a new license ...blah blah blah, otherwise he is going to take me to small claims and sue me for $200 plus other costs.

    Here's the thing, he doesn't have my last name, only my phone number and my address (he came to pick it up from my place, I assume he still has the address because he said he saved all the text messages)

    Will he get laughed at if he tries to bring this up to the courts? What if he says I sold him a laptop with a bootlegged version of windows on it? Does this guy even have a chance.
     
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  2. fulcanelli

    fulcanelli Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    You're gonna lose a lot of money if you don't talk to a lawyer. I'd say he reveals that you sold him a laptop with pirated software to the courts and then you get your prostate massaged by a jackhammer by Papa Microsoft.

    -additions-

    Yes, you are in danger. Work with the guy and tell him you're going to try to get him a legit copy first, but get everything in writing that he won't sue you if this and that and this and that.
     
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  3. lost_tribe

    lost_tribe Newbie

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    As long as you have a vaild windows serial key, or windows 7 license. who knows what he did after you gave him the laptop. he could have downloaded a pirated version screwed up the computer and is now coming after you for his mistakes.

    I say claim ignorance.
     
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  4. fulcanelli

    fulcanelli Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Ignorance is the right word. It's very easy see when most software or an OS has been installed.
     
  5. QuietZorg

    QuietZorg Regular Member

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    If you were really sneaky, you could say to him, you have a genuine copy and if he temporarily gives you the laptop for a while, you can but genuine activated windows on it. (or your friend has a genuine copy.... make up something).

    Then use the activator (by hazar(?)) and then removeWAT, so the recent counterfeit message should go away (at least for a while!) Give it back to him , and hope he believes it.

    It's a long shot, but that will buy you some time for a face transplant and to leave the country ;)

    But seriously, I don't know much about the legal stuff, but if I were given the option of paying 100$ and the problem goes away, or else suffer the possibly much harsher consequences, I'd certainly opt for the former!

    Let us know what happens..!
     
  6. JuicyBlack

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    Id say buy him the OS and have him sign that he bought a laptop from you including all the legit software for it (list the windows serial key in this document). Also make sure to put somewhere in there that he agreed to buy the bundle (laptop + software) "as is" .. that way he can't come up a few months down the road and ask you to replace something else.

    Here is the version I ordered for my gampa (full OS for $109, 32 or 64bit) > http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/campaigns/campaigntemplate.asp?CampaignID=1100

    Save yourself the trouble and settle this shit for $109...... but remember to make him sign the agreement. Good luck!
     
  7. KBC-12

    KBC-12 Regular Member

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    Yeah man I think you should be a little worried.

    But if you do have a legit windows 7 key that you can find, Lost_tribe is right. You dont know what he did AFTER you sold him the laptop.

    I could get legit windows 7 keys about a month ago for $15. I would probably just try and do that, who the fuck wants to go to court even if you do have a case & win?
    PM me if you wanna go that route and I'll look into it for you.

    **This is why I ALWAYS meet people I sell shit to on CL at the gas Station, and now I have google number that displays instead of my actual cell. And I use my real first name, fake last name. As my brother once said to me, "Craigslist is like the trailer park of the internet". (cant be to safe, some people are just assholes.)
     
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  8. dbankston

    dbankston Newbie

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    Criminally, your totally fine. In the states, our law enforcement is busy enough, they won't waste time dealing with something like this.

    Now civil court is a different story, just don't let him serve you if he trys to sue you.
     
  9. thehilitereel

    thehilitereel Registered Member

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    Your first mistake was inviting a stranger into your home that you met off the internet.

    Second mistake is actually giving a shit. Your word against his, you say the damn thing was genuine and worked fine when you sold it to him and that he's delusional. Change your phone number if you have to, if he shows up at your doorstep put a gun in his face.

    Case closed.
     
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  10. jodys

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    Tell him to go f*ck himself. You bought it that way and sold it that way. You never loaded shit on it and had no reason to suspect it was not legal. Worked for you and worked when you sold it. That's all you know.

    He doesn't need an Attorney, small claims works with private parties and no Attorney allowed. No judge will make you pay or buy him a copy unless you specifically stated you're selling the software also. Saying a computer has some old software on it doesn't say you're selling the software or disks are included. Did he request disks at the time of the transaction? Probably not so the deal was done once he handed you cash and took possession. If you didn't promise anything in the future then he doesn't have a leg to stand on. You don't have a contract with him and stop talking to him before you create one!
     
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    angelas111 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    This is bullshit. He cannot do anything to you. It was an as is sale. You are not responsible.
     
  12. tukim

    tukim Regular Member

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    You sold him a laptop on CL, that's like him buying something at a garage sale. There's no agreement or documentation I assume, so nothing can happen.
     
  13. slicer

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    Tell him to swim backwards on a razor blade!

    Tell him to STOP calling YOU. Matter of fact send him
    a registered letter telling him to cease and desist calling.
    The next time he calls bill him $500 per call.

    Of course you should ask a Lawyer his opinion :rolleyes:

    This is only what I would do.
     
  14. zverr

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    When you bought it what OS was on it ?? The really bad part is that it has pirated software. I think it will be best to find genuine copy as JuicyBlack said make him sign an agreement. Don't pay him cash because in a month he may want more money. Obviously the guy is an as* and will try to bring you trouble.
     
  15. entrepreneur88

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    Lol good idea. You can probably find phone c&d letters by searching for them in the big G.

    People use these all the time with phone marketers and collection agencies.

    Other options: Tell him to drop off the laptop for a few hours and make it genuine again. You could also look under computer services on Craiglists for Pc techs who will sell you a legit copy for $79. Even if it isn't a legit copy that guy won't know the difference. Just tell him your going to have a pc tech reinstall it and he can even watch him install it if he would like.
     
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    Don't give him anything, because HE installed that pirated Win 7, you have genuine copy he doesn't, how he can prove that he didn't install that OS?
     
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    Depends what your listing said as to whether he has any chance of success, should he pursue to small claims. Did you just sell the laptop or did you sell the laptop with specified os Win 7??
     
  18. dearac

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    buy it with a .edu email.
    Code:
    http://store.digitalriver.com/DRHM/servlet/ControllerServlet?Action=AddItemToRequisition&SiteID=msshus&Locale=en_US&productID=161679100&quantity=1&resid=S5-73AoBAkYAAB4ALJ8AAAAa&rests=1268775899875
     
  19. appleman

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    he is going to rob you at night
     
  20. Mjordan

    Mjordan Power Member

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    Wow why the hell would you meet him at your house??? Bad bad idea man, very bad idea.