First off I love this forum. In the last few weeks since i found it it's been invaluable in terms of the things I've picked up. I know people ask about which tools are the best blah blah blah so sorry for being a broken record. I guess the only leeway a question like this deserves is that new software surfaces routinely and older programs evolve for better or for worse. Here's the deal I'm finally making the plunge and I'd like to start my collection with Scrapebox and Xrumer and then go from there. I know Xrumer has a steep learning curve and since I know nothing about code I will have a lot of challenges. AND I'm also aware of the fact that you can't rely on tools alone, etc, etc..... So is this a good idea? I'm totally ruling out Senuke xcr because of price. Maybe one day but for now no way. I'm also very curious about Clyde's Sedemon.... Waiting for that. And lastly I should go for a dedicated server for xrumer, that's my take on that...along with VPN and proxies...... Any feedback is much appreciated and no feedback is perfectly okay as well because I still love you guys!