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so i had an seo company try to pitch me today...........

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  1. angelas111

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    This guy called my dealership today. This guy just wouldn't give up. I told him I already had an SEO company working for us (didn't tell him it was mine). Told him that I already show up number 1 for most of my keywords (and even showed him). His response was "well, that is for those maps listings. people don't really pay attention to those. you get more traffic with organic listings." I said "well, i don't see how that is the case since there is only one organic listing on the first page and the rest are google places. and furthermore, i don't see how the organic positions are getting more traffic then me if you compare the number of monthly visitors and mine are exponentially more." but this guy kept going on and on. persistent little effer. but that goes to show you they still wanted my money even though they can't improve what i already got.

    I had a guy call my seo company today who was trying to do his own SEO for his company. I took a look and he was at the bottom of the first page. I offered him some pointers and did not even try to pitch him as it seemed he was doing pretty good on his own and just needed a couple tweaks.

    My whole point is you got to have ethics in the business and don't try to sell someone something they clearly don't need.
     
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    How much was he trying to charge you?
     
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    you know, i didn't even ask.
     
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    i would have felt bad for him but he had a really snippy attitude.
     
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    You do get alot of people who clearly just want your money- I get alot of pitches from ppl like that - I get alot of people also emailing me summaries of my current website status and alot of the time it's total rubbish.

    But I also get proposals that youcan tell are good.

    I agree, whatever you do, you need ethics - if your in the service industry you need that because you need to build up a reputation.

    I think SEO is too easy to get into - that's why you get slot of start-up cowboys.
     
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    I've had encounters with some SEO company salesman who are just that: salesman. They don't really have much background/experience with SEO - only what their bosses have told them in training meetings. Consequently, they give you the same arguments over and over (that's all they know) and push hard because they get a % of the business...
     
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    Should have told him to go read How To Make Friends And Influence People. Sounds like he could use a few selling seminars at least.
     
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    I should say, sales guys are soooooooo persistent they never give up.
     
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    Reminds me of Boiler Room: "A sale is made on every call you make. Either you sell the client some stock or he sells you a reason he can't. Either way a sale is made, the only question is who is gonna close? You or him? Now be relentless, that's it, I'm done."
     
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    Never really ask most of them. Last time I got a good proposal I think it was something crazy like 8k for the year or maybe more than that, they said they done work for nando's and some other big companies.

    Anyway, I do know what your saying about the sales pitch - but I think a good salesman does also need to have some appreciation for the service and as you said, needs to know when (s)he ain't gonna get a deal! Or when they're gonna just hand over a useless customer to their client.
     
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    Although I have not read a sales book in at least 20 years, I think that is poor salemanship.

    If you want a long term client you build a relationship with them and make sure that you are steering them in the right direction.

    If a client needs shoes and you only sell widgets you don't try and jam a widget down their throat.

    I grew up on the Jersey shore and my Father owned a sporting goods/hobby shop and we would get people coming in asking if we sold XYZ. We didn't sell XYZ and we didnt try and sell them ABC.

    What we did was say "No, we don't sell XYZ but Borden's may carry that, take a walk over there and see if they can help you."

    I still do that... guy wants total SEO, I can't help them and send them to someone that may be able to help them.

    Guy wants EDU links, I can't help them but I know BigBuddy can so I sned them there.

    Relationship sales is long term sales... jamming a service/product down a prospects throat will only last so long.
     
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    When I look for potential clients to offer my service to, I stop and actually think if I will make them more money than I will charge. I thought most/all people do that. Who wants to go to bed at night thinking they're taking some money from a small business owner and you're not even providing them some type of result!
     
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